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Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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It makes me sad that FF browser share has continued to decline steadily. The past couple years of releases have been some its the best in terms of my own UX, since perhaps the Phoenix era. It's pretty fast these days, the UI is good, has a lot of great extensions and privacy features. I use Brave at work to have a better chrome-based experience with gsuite. It's also a fast, excellent browser with good privacy featur…

Every time I use Firefox I find some other stupid issue that just doesn't fly in 2021. Today it might be a top 50 website that doesn't work properly, yesterday maybe it's excessive cpu usage, day before maybe pinch to zoom doesn't work. Who knows what dumb crap is happening tomorrow. Life is too short to muck around with half baked software.

Firefox is a dumpster fire half the time. I use Firefox still for exactly ONE website: Facebook. To keep it sandboxed.

I still have to restart Firefox at least once every other day because it leaks and becomes a runaway process.

No plugins/addons. As stock as it gets. One single website only... and it still pukes all over itself.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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I recently switched back to Firefox mobile (I couldn't remember why I switched to Chrome in the first place) because I was sick of using the web without ad blockers. A few months in I'm really happy with it. Main tip is: I found the scroll behaviour janky when the URL bar was at the top. Once I put it at the bottom (IIRC this is the default anyway, and once I got used to it I realised it's pretty unambiguously a bett…

As a longtime user of Firefox for Mobile, the add-on massacre a few months go pushed me over the edge. Now I switch between Vivaldi (syncs with the the desktop, decent built-in add blocking, sadly no support for extensions) and Kiwi Browser (supports desktop Chrome extensions, including uBlock Origin).

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Too many distractions from Mozilla (Firefox OS, VPN etc and a complete dissonance from the core- browser. It doesn't help when senior management takes fat bonuses and fires away employees during the pandemic. That doesn't make for pleasant optics and also distanced me away from their product.

Firefox seems to be the only hope to avoid a duopoly dominated by forces that are anti-privacy and anti-user. I recently made the move from Safari to Firefox and I am very pleased.

This being said, I agree with you about the optics of Firefox management. There is a lot going on that isn't good and the personal enrichment of the executives feels all sorts of wrong.

If FF management can not be good stewards of a vital product, who can be? What sort of system could be set up to properly manage, motivate and pay for development?

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Every time I use Firefox I find some other stupid issue that just doesn't fly in 2021. Today it might be a top 50 website that doesn't work properly, yesterday maybe it's excessive cpu usage, day before maybe pinch to zoom doesn't work. Who knows what dumb crap is happening tomorrow. Life is too short to muck around with half baked software.

Firefox is a dumpster fire half the time. I use Firefox still for exactly ONE website: Facebook. To keep it sandboxed. I still have to restart Firefox at least once every other day because it leaks and becomes a runaway process. No plugins/addons. As stock as it gets. One single website only... and it still pukes all over itself.

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Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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More like: "Firefox Browser: 1. It is not google. 2. It's not a Chrome fork maintained by potentially flaky/untrustworthy players. 3. uBlock Origin. 4. Multi-Account Containers."

5. Very keyboard-friendly 6. Incredibly customizable via CSS, including multiple rows of tabs

7. Enhanced Tracking Protection

8. Non-nerfed ad blocking

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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Are the three headline features important to you? They are: - Picture in Picture - Expanded Dark Mode - DNS over HTTPs I really like Firefox, but features like this are not going to cause people to switch browsers. I'm pretty sure most end users would never even notice them. DNS over HTTPs is actually a bit of a pain if you want to host your own DNS.

DoH is very, very important to me.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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I’ve opted to using librewolf as I prefer its out of the box changes removing everything that sucks about firefox. I refuse to use chrome (unless its for work in that case I use an isolated chromium) I despise the monopoly of the web and I despise google. Personally I think Brave is a honeypot and even if it isn’t, it’s still supporting the monopolized web standard. I hope things get better because we need more choice.

Re: Firefox Browser: best for a free web

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It makes me sad that FF browser share has continued to decline steadily. The past couple years of releases have been some its the best in terms of my own UX, since perhaps the Phoenix era. It's pretty fast these days, the UI is good, has a lot of great extensions and privacy features. I use Brave at work to have a better chrome-based experience with gsuite. It's also a fast, excellent browser with good privacy featur…

I just don't trust Google, they make almost all their money from tracking users for advertising purposes. So the cynic/realist in me believes that they are fundamentally opposed to privacy.
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