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Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by LinuxBender »

judge2020 wrote: post #41
silisili wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, seems mastodon is fragmented or segmented into many independent networks. Do those interact with each other in any way? I'd hate to join one and miss truly interesting content on another...is it possible to distill multiple into one on the user end? Just asking, as I've never tried it before and the concept seems a little confusing.

Yes, on mastodon you can follow @someone@anothermastodon.local even if you are on firstmastodon.local, and the server running your instance will phone out to anothermastodon.local to retrieve posts from the person you follow.

Do you have to use federation, or can you create your own little bubble and everything is self contained?

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by swayvil »

Imnimo wrote: post #8

I doubt anyone at Facebook is freaking out about Mastodon and setting out to censor all mention of it. It's probably just a keyword or link that tends to co-appear with other, actually rule-breaking content, and some automated system has learned to block it. Still, it does seem like the sort of thing that could get Facebook in trouble with a regulator if you squint at it.

And if you believe that then I have a nice bridge I'd like to sell you.

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Look at those downvotes. You people are so protective of your little social media nipple.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by jjcon »

ineedasername wrote: post #13
chmod600 wrote: post #4

Censorship is always abused. Maybe this time or maybe not. But it's always abused. And yes, it's worse than misinformation.

I'm not sure it's worse than misinformation. In my field, bad data often has a more damaging impact than no data . But I suppose it will depend on the circumstances, and I'd honestly be interested to hear your thoughts on why censorship is worse. As for the inevitability of abuse? When it comes to corporate interests, that seems to be nearly axiomatic. The Verge's list of fascinating & horrifying exchange at Apple ab…

This isn't 'some bad data' vs 'no data'

This is 'some bad data' vs 'systemically biased data' and the latter is much worse. Most datasets will contain some bad data but it can be worked around because the errors are random.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by wussboy »

chmod600 wrote: post #4

Censorship is always abused. Maybe this time or maybe not. But it's always abused. And yes, it's worse than misinformation.

If my kids were late coming home from school, and I asked you if you know what has happened, and you either:

1. Don't say anything because my neighbour tapes your mouth shut

2. Lie and say, "They were brutally murdered by your neighbour", resulting in a dead neighbour followed by my kids showing up unharmed from school

...can you explain in this scenario how censorship is worse than misinformation.

I'm not trying do be a jerk. I hear your argument a lot (especially on tech-heavy web sites) and I want to understand it.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by thinkloop »

Imnimo wrote: post #8

I doubt anyone at Facebook is freaking out about Mastodon and setting out to censor all mention of it. It's probably just a keyword or link that tends to co-appear with other, actually rule-breaking content, and some automated system has learned to block it. Still, it does seem like the sort of thing that could get Facebook in trouble with a regulator if you squint at it.

I have personally never heard of, or seen, any scams or malware related to mastadon - aren't you giving too much benefit of the doubt?

My best guess is that their lists of competitors to keep an eye on got mixed up with other stuff. Or, of course, that they simply don't want to promote competitors on their platform, which would be normal for any non-monopoly.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by chmod600 »

rgrieselhuber wrote: post #56
chmod600 wrote: post #4

Censorship is always abused. Maybe this time or maybe not. But it's always abused. And yes, it's worse than misinformation.

Censorship is the sloppiest possible solution to the epistemological crisis. I thought we figured this out during the Enlightenment.

The question is: do we want to learn the lessons of history the easy way, or the hard way?

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by gargron »

LinuxBender wrote: post #71
judge2020 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, on mastodon you can follow @someone@anothermastodon.local even if you are on firstmastodon.local, and the server running your instance will phone out to anothermastodon.local to retrieve posts from the person you follow.

Do you have to use federation, or can you create your own little bubble and everything is self contained?

It's self-contained by default and as you follow outside users it starts receiving their posts and so on. You don't have to participate in the whole fediverse.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by evgen »

swayvil wrote: post #72
Imnimo wrote: post #8

I doubt anyone at Facebook is freaking out about Mastodon and setting out to censor all mention of it. It's probably just a keyword or link that tends to co-appear with other, actually rule-breaking content, and some automated system has learned to block it. Still, it does seem like the sort of thing that could get Facebook in trouble with a regulator if you squint at it.

And if you believe that then I have a nice bridge I'd like to sell you. --- Look at those downvotes. You people are so protective of your little social media nipple.

If you think that Mastadon is in any way a 'competitor' to FB or anyone at FB gives a shit about Mastadon I think that the bridge you are trying to sell only exists in your mind. Programmers are lazy and almost always breaking shit; the probability that this is anything more than some sloppy code somewhere pruning an offending URL in a way that blocks more than it should is so remote as to be laughable.

Re: Facebook Censored Me For Mentioning Open-Source Social Network Mastodon

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Post by [deleted] »

LinuxBender wrote: post #71
judge2020 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, on mastodon you can follow @someone@anothermastodon.local even if you are on firstmastodon.local, and the server running your instance will phone out to anothermastodon.local to retrieve posts from the person you follow.

Do you have to use federation, or can you create your own little bubble and everything is self contained?

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