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Re: Court rules for Florida governor, reinstates ban on mask mandates in FL schools

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Post by Bailin » Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

dustintrex wrote: post #54

perl4ever wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the COVID situation in Florida, which has been steadily improving ever since schools opened There have been articles about how Florida recently switched to reporting deaths with the date of death, so it seems that it will continually appear that the rate plummeted recently. As time goes by, though, the graph will be filled in. Maybe people are being deceived by this. >pointless hygiene theater at this point You can…

We're a year and half in at this point, and I've been masking throughout because I thought it would make a difference, plus I live in a country where it's compulsory anyway. However, I've yet to see a peer-reviewed, statistically significant study about non-medical mask use in social settings having a measurable effect. If you have any pointers, I'm all ears.

I found this list of 40+. The second one seems to fit your criteria https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/do-face-masks-work-her...

Re: Court rules for Florida governor, reinstates ban on mask mandates in FL schools

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Post by loudtieblahblah » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 3:29 PM UTC

brianpan wrote: post #18

dustintrex wrote: post #5

FWIW, the mask mandate ban appears to have precisely zero effect on the COVID situation in Florida, which has been steadily improving ever since schools opened. Here's a blog facetiously suggesting that not wearing masks in school caused the improvement, and while it's obviously written tongue in cheek, from a stats/causality point of view it's pretty much indistinguishable from a lot of arguments for masks. https://…

Theater, like security theater, is implementing something that doesn't work but doing it anyway for appearances. Masks work as you say. The fact that people don't want to wear them not is not hygiene theater, it's non-compliance. More to your point, of course the mask ban had little effect in FL when it's on-again-off-again and challenged in courts. The situation is changing and confusing, so people will do what they…

>The fact that people don't want to wear them not is not hygiene theater, it's non-compliance.

Cloth masks are Hygiene theater. The rules that allow cloth masks and neck gaiters and all sorts of stuff is all theater and are asking compliance for the sake of compliance.

N95/N99/k95 masks are not. These have effect.

Not wearing a mask at all, is non-compliance. But when the rules were changing (first it was don't wear a mask then changed to wear one), and when the rules about the masks aren't really protecting people by allowing cloth masks and gaiters, you're just giving those who already don't trust authorities in this matter more fuel for the fire.

>Children are getting covid in greater percentages because they are yet to be vaccinated.

And one wonders if that's a great idea

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v...

> The study suggests that the rate of CAE was 3.7 to 6.1 times higher among healthy 12-15-year-old boys than their risk of hospitalisation from Covid-19 in 120 days as of August 21. The rate of CAE was 2.6-4.3-fold higher at times of high weekly hospitalization risk, such as during January 2021.

> “For boys 16-17 without medical comorbidities, the rate of CAE is currently 2.1 to 3.5 times higher than their 120-day Covid-19 hospitalization risk, and 1.5 to 2.5 times higher at times of high weekly Covid-19 hospitalization,” the study says.

Re: Court rules for Florida governor, reinstates ban on mask mandates in FL schools

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Post by brohee » Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 3:30 PM UTC

albertop wrote: post #30

perl4ever wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the COVID situation in Florida, which has been steadily improving ever since schools opened There have been articles about how Florida recently switched to reporting deaths with the date of death, so it seems that it will continually appear that the rate plummeted recently. As time goes by, though, the graph will be filled in. Maybe people are being deceived by this. >pointless hygiene theater at this point You can…

Psychological harm caused by forcing mask on young children is well documented. So forcing something on them that has no positive effect matters a lot.

More than an active shooter drill?