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Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

nitrogen wrote: post #68
ZeroGravitas wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you link to some sources on this? edit: I'd seen this mentioned recently, but hadn't realised it was a long running culture war thing so it had already been discredited by research years ago: https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/...

That's 2018. Wr're here in 2021 watching videos of stores being actively raided.

Have you got any videos of statistical trends or other evidence that what you believe is actually true? Or are we just working from viral anecdata?

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by bluedino »

valdiorn wrote: post #41
tyoma wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The felony theft limit for Texas is $2,500, but their retail establishments do not report massive shoplifting sprees. Clearly there is more than misdemeanor/felony classification at work here.

but in Texas, how likely is the staff or the store owner to be armed, and actually confront you? No way that would happen in California. I keep thinking of this event that happened to me in the UK, where laws are equally useless at preventing theft, and staff are just powerless to do anything about it. I chased down a shoplifter. I cornered him in an alley. He stopped, looked at me, and this brief conversation took p…

>> but in Texas, how likely is the staff or the store owner to be armed, and actually confront you?

At a CVS? Not likely at all.

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by matrix »

Amazon's co-mingling of inventory facilitated large-scale theft by enabling stolen goods to be sold along-side legitimately sourced items. One has to wonder: at what point does Amazon's reluctance to improve supply-chain integrity venture into the territory of aiding and abetting crime?

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #71
nitrogen wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's 2018. Wr're here in 2021 watching videos of stores being actively raided.

Have you got any videos of statistical trends or other evidence that what you believe is actually true? Or are we just working from viral anecdata?

> According to federal data, adults with substance-abuse disorders make up just 2.6 percent of the total population but 72 percent of all jail inmates sentenced for property crimes. Addicts are 29 times more likely to commit property crimes than the average American. Furthermore, as the Bureau of Justice Statistics found, “[39 percent of jail inmates] held for property offenses said they committed the crime for money for drugs”—the most common single motivation for crime throughout the justice system.

In other news, the Sacklers got away with making Billions from creatimg addicts.

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by ryandrake »

nuclearnice1 wrote: post #63
valdiorn wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

but in Texas, how likely is the staff or the store owner to be armed, and actually confront you? No way that would happen in California. I keep thinking of this event that happened to me in the UK, where laws are equally useless at preventing theft, and staff are just powerless to do anything about it. I chased down a shoplifter. I cornered him in an alley. He stopped, looked at me, and this brief conversation took p…

I love a good foot chase! Given the sentiments of your last paragraph, why did you choose to send the criminal away and return Tesco’s stolen beef?

I don't understand putting your personal safety at risk (who knows if he had a knife or something) over £100 of goods belonging to a £20B company. It's not like he stole your meat and cheese as you were shopping. Nobody is going to miss that cheese. Nobody is going to get fired over it. It's really not that important.

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by eplanit »

floren wrote: post #30
bko wrote: post #3

> The target was no ordinary shoplifter. He was part of a network of organized professionals, known as boosters, whom CVS had been monitoring for weeks. The company believed the group responsible for stealing almost $50 million in products over five years from dozens of stores in Northern California. The story isn't about people selling stolen goods on Amazon. It's about organized theft operations. One way to stop th…

The SF city government seems to have realized that there's another way to make crime "go down": refuse to prosecute for anything, ideally make it pointless for the cops to even show up, until people stop bothering to report crime. Wow, shoplifting is at record lows!

Exactly. Stop calling criminal activity "crimes", and then the stats look great. And, the local SF media participates and pushes the "crime is actually down" narrative: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/stats-sh...

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by andy_ppp »

wil421 wrote: post #6
andy_ppp wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually surprised no-one has set up an online pawnshop, Klarna meets eBay.

It would be way too easy to scam them. Pawnshops need to validate the quality of the item and determine if it’s legit. Most Pawnshops will also sell on ebay.

This is exactly what people said about eBay, no?

Re: Retailers are spending millions to combat organized theft from stores

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Post by neither_color »

floren wrote: post #30
bko wrote: post #3

> The target was no ordinary shoplifter. He was part of a network of organized professionals, known as boosters, whom CVS had been monitoring for weeks. The company believed the group responsible for stealing almost $50 million in products over five years from dozens of stores in Northern California. The story isn't about people selling stolen goods on Amazon. It's about organized theft operations. One way to stop th…

The SF city government seems to have realized that there's another way to make crime "go down": refuse to prosecute for anything, ideally make it pointless for the cops to even show up, until people stop bothering to report crime. Wow, shoplifting is at record lows!

We're approaching a strange post-empirical world where the right chart or graph can be used to justify any public policy, and often changing how the data for the chart is collected, analyzed and presented is easier than solving the issue. The collective anecdotes of thousands/millions of people can be dismissed because the chart says otherwise.

Disagree that crime in your neighborhood has dropped? Just because your car has been broken into and your neighbor got robbed doesnt mean there's a trend. Anecdotes arent data. Do you have a source for that?

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