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Man can change his pupil size on command

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Re: Man can change his pupil size on command

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I didn't think this was special? I've done this in the mirrior? Not fast or anything, but it is "on demand".

Same. I always lumped it in with "can't curl my tongue" and "cilantro tastes like soap" types of genetic differences...

I've got a weird "can't do what apparently most people can do" one and have wondered if it is genetic.

I can't walk while urinating. If I've started urinating and realize that I should be standing a little bit farther forward or back or to the side I have to stop, move, and restart.

I asked once on some other forum if others have the same restriction and everyone claimed they can easily walk while urinating.

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Same. I always lumped it in with "can't curl my tongue" and "cilantro tastes like soap" types of genetic differences...

I've got a weird "can't do what apparently most people can do" one and have wondered if it is genetic. I can't walk while urinating. If I've started urinating and realize that I should be standing a little bit farther forward or back or to the side I have to stop, move, and restart. I asked once on some other forum if others have the same restriction and everyone claimed they can easily walk while urinating.

try peeing your pants - just a little and where there won't be serious repercussions. it kind of illuminates the line between the conditioned and the physical - y'know

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When dental assisting, it has been challenging to discover how many people have no voluntary control over their own tongues.

I had a hard time getting my tongue out of the way when the dentist/assistant/hygienist would say it was in the way until I stopped trying to move it away from wherever it currently was to trying to move it to the opposite side of my mouth from where they were working.

Re: Man can change his pupil size on command

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"Once thought impossible," apparently, by people who have no exposure to the individual variability of humans, no faith in self-reported anecdata, or at least no desire to consider anything less philosophically perfect than spherical friction-less cows when contemplating biology.

The difference between impossible and merely rare is important: if something is merely rare, sometimes it can be trained and stop being rare.

Individual variability doesn't make people fly. It's reasonable to think there are things no one can do.

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I've always wondered what the limits of mind over matter were. Like if I practiced every day, Could I learn to move my toes individually or with more dexterity? Could I focus on that random muscle that twitches in my leg and get it to stop, or move it myself?

You can definitely improve foot dexterity. People who have lost their hands get much better through practice.

Re: Man can change his pupil size on command

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Wow! I did not know nobody could do it. I am personally more impressed by people who can move their earlobe I can't do this but I. can change my pupil size. I just somehow imagine looking farther when in front of a mirror.

I never thought my my ability to move my ears as "impressive", thanks!

FWIW the muscle that surrounds the ear from behind is under direct control for me, like any other muscle. I can move the ears independently of one another.

But i sure can't raise the quizzical eyebrow over my right eye, despite being able to with my left. Funny how your nervous system can have something so dialed on one side but ghosts the other.

Re: Man can change his pupil size on command

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When dental assisting, it has been challenging to discover how many people have no voluntary control over their own tongues.

MRI tech here: I’m surprised how many appear to have no control over their limbs. Please keep still.

I'm surprised that that group apparently also includes me. I had an awful experience during my LASIK procedure. What should've taken a few minutes ended up taking like 40+. It was almost an hour of the doctor and nurses constantly repeating "please keep still", yet from the very start to the very end I was literally making myself as still as possible and from my perspective wasn't moving any part of my body in the slightest.

It felt like some Kafkaesque nightmare, being repeatedly told to do something I was certain I was doing the whole time. And also, since it was taking so long, they had to keep restarting the whole thing over and over, including jetting my eye with freezing cold water again and again, which wasn't a pleasant sensation even with the local anesthetic. It was so confusing to me because I just... was not moving and they kept telling me to stop moving. I was neither voluntarily moving myself nor did I feel like any part of me was moving.

After it was over, they said my heart was beating so fast/forcefully that I was involuntarily moving around, or my eyes were moving around, or something. (It was years ago and I forget the exact explanation.) I know in theory one has some indirect voluntary control over their heart rate, such as with breathing patterns, but 1) during the entire procedure, they never told me that; they just kept saying "stop moving", and 2) even if they did tell me it probably wouldn't have helped much. I think the only thing that helped was my breathing eventually naturally slowed and my body started relaxing.

I had no conscious anxiety or worries going into the procedure, but I guess some part of my "lizard brain" just automatically took over once I was on the table. And probably related to this, I also have a dire case of "white coat syndrome", where the first blood pressure reading I receive at any doctor's office is often unbelievably "go-to-the-hospital-now" high, and then a few minutes later they test it again and it's normal. Again, I have literally no conscious fear of or concerns about doctors, procedures, blood pressure readings, needles, etc., but somehow my autonomic nervous system begs to differ.

So, I would guess some of the patients you work with may genuinely be just as surprised as you are when you tell them they're moving.

Re: Man can change his pupil size on command

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MRI tech here: I’m surprised how many appear to have no control over their limbs. Please keep still.

I'm surprised that that group apparently also includes me. I had an awful experience during my LASIK procedure. What should've taken a few minutes ended up taking like 40+. It was almost an hour of the doctor and nurses constantly repeating "please keep still", yet from the very start to the very end I was literally making myself as still as possible and from my perspective wasn't moving any part of my body in the sl…

Oh, man, that sounds like a nightmare. As someone with a lot of anxiety I was probably never going to do LASIK anyway, but after reading this there's absolutely no way I'd ever even consider it. And yes, when I find myself in an anxious situation I tend to cope with body movement, some of it I'm aware of, others probably not.

Re: Man can change his pupil size on command

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

MRI tech here: I’m surprised how many appear to have no control over their limbs. Please keep still.

I'm surprised that that group apparently also includes me. I had an awful experience during my LASIK procedure. What should've taken a few minutes ended up taking like 40+. It was almost an hour of the doctor and nurses constantly repeating "please keep still", yet from the very start to the very end I was literally making myself as still as possible and from my perspective wasn't moving any part of my body in the sl…

I've only recently started taking control of my breath (despite my parents suggesting I learn it in childhood). It is hard to imagine the impact when you're not doing it.

When you start consider that you're going to try for a minute, then three, then five. It is truly insane the amount of change you'll experience.

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