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Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Re: Australian Police get online account takeover, data disruption powers

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Time to drop all Atlassian products. Fortunately they removed Server licenses (you have to pay millions for the Datacenter ones or use Cloud) just in time for these new laws.

Atlassian helped with the COVIDSafe app, and one of their founders came here and telling us to trust the government, they know what they're doing, they won't spy on us.

... and then the spy agencies requested access to said app data.

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They require to be “reasonably necessary, and proportionate” ...sound ambiguous to me, and most importantly, what is "serious offences" or "serious criminal activity on the internet". It says crimes that carry jail time of three or more years. I assume that is minimum sentence. Does not sound extremely serious.threat to harm gives 5years , stalking 3 years, the police will have a field day with this, just think how o…

When the Deputy Premier of NSW can sic the anti-terror Fixated Persons Unit onto comedians because they don't like their criticism, one has to question how low the bar is on "reasonbly necessary, and proportionate".

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Time to drop all Atlassian products. Fortunately they removed Server licenses (you have to pay millions for the Datacenter ones or use Cloud) just in time for these new laws.

Their BitBucket Server to Cloud migration tools are atrocious. Gitlab actually provides a smoother migration process, as it migrates any Pull Requests as well as everything else that the Atlassian tools did.

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It seems a lot of Australians want to live vicariously through Hollywood. Some might say it's just more of the cultural cringe.

If I were to talk to someone on the street, I'd have no idea what shared knowledge or values we'd have. Multiculturalism leads to atomisation, and atomised societies are easy to control.

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It's just another thing to add to the pile. Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say!

> Australians have got it too good to care about this sort of thing. Like western society and climate change, taking any kind of action gets in the way of enjoying the fucking weekend; don't be such a fucking downer. More sunshine I say! Nonsense. The problem is that the minority parties who oppose overreach like this are treated as dirty (Liberal Democratic Party) and the major parties all support crap like this. An…

major parties all support crap like this

That's because the major parties represent what they think the people want, and the people aren't motivated enough (or actually don't give a shit) to get a different message through. Cue my commentary.

Every democracy gets the government they voted for.

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North Korea with food and surf.

Except for the minor fact that you can move to a different country whenever you feel like it.

Not right now you can't. Australians are flat out not allowed to travel outside the country during the pandemic unless you're attending the Olympics or a politician

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>>> There are plenty of states that are still fighting this totalitarian-authoritarian effort. Curious as to what states you believe those to be?

Germany. Austria. The memory of the Stasi is still quite fresh in these societies collective consciousness.

Im sorry to say, but thats not true.

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For the record, the Greens are the only major party to oppose this overreach. (Major in the sense that they are the 3rd largest party outside of the ALP and the Liberal parties, and larger than the National party.[*]) From the article: Green Senator Lidia Thorpe described the bill as “terribly flawed” and “problematic”, cited comments in the Richardson review that existing powers were adequate, and criticised the lac…

The Greens do not support civil liberties. Opposing a single piece of the puzzle (digital surveillance, for now) doesn't change the ongoing assaults that the Greens party has been carrying out since their inception. The whole coal dependence Australia has is a direct consequence of the Greens rejecting alternatives like nuclear[0]. The entire political position of the Greens starts and stops at the 'think of the chil…

Given how little rights we are guaranteed in Australia by our constitution, I wouldn’t mind our government getting less sovereign and having higher powers to appeal to. The UN is a little dysfunctional at times with things like the rock paper scissor game of who on the security council will veto it this time, but the various UN departments tend to produce pretty decent stuff when it comes to “Human Rights” it’s not like we don’t have the lessons to learn after decades of watching the way the EU worksz

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I really wonder how all of this will work out once we get the first brain implants. Mobile phones are coming close to that but imagine police can add/remove/tamper with your memory at will…

I’d literally jump off a cliff before considering any kind of brain implant designed to be a computer interface that I wasn’t completely and legally in control of.

If it lets a computer read anything out of my skull it’s going to be 100% under my own control. Like open source, and legally protected from any of these kinds of laws.

The USA has things like the 4th and 5th amendments to protect from crossing that line, Australia’s law has no such inviolate rights.

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