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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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A neat tool, but YouTube is generally an abysmal source for music. That's partly deliberate (from record labels) and partly an inevitable consequence of recompression with different lossy formats. Unless something is completely unavailable elsewhere, you'll find far better audio quality from other (original) sources.

That and a lot of music I have found on there has a music video version of the song which can sometimes be slightly different than the original song. It's usually something like a longer intro before the music starts or something like cheering from a crowd or whatever to mimic it being a live performance music video. So you're getting a subpar sound quality combined with a sometimes differing song from the original.

You can usually find a lyric version with the unedited album track.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Thanks for this post! First I am hearing about this fork! Darn...unfortunately still can't download Joe Rogan Spotify. Guess they haven't found a way around the widevine encryption...(Right now it seems like only a few podcasts are encrypted so other Spotify streams work)

It's always strange to think that there is encrypted data flowing through my software, through my operating system, into my hardware, that somehow I, the user, I am unable to access, but that the hardware can handle just fine. How does this work?

You can access it just fine. It’s just processed by very obfuscated code that constantly changes.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

I pay for YouTube premium but still see them. That’s not OK, especially when the creators make 10x more money off YouTube Premium users than from ad-based users.

YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users.

As for why downloading, I download any/every video I find useful so I don’t have to go back to YouTube to watch it later. Everything from blender tutorials to car build videos that taught me something to music video clips and generally just anything interesting. It all goes to my NAS and I can instantly pull it up for reference and scrub quicker and don’t have to deal with YouTube’s increasingly annoying website.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Sure, but creators don’t have many other avenues for revenue when you’re already using YouTube-dl(p) to download videos without watching ads. I imagine sponsor spots will be devalued over time as sponsorblock usage continues to grow, especially for creators with audiences that watch content on desktop more than mobile.

Is it apparent to the sponsor when someone is watching using youtube-dlp versus a regular view? I'd imagine most sponsored segments are negotiated based on subscriber count or view numbers.

I don't believe the view counter gets incremented when using any unofficial front-end/downloader.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Thanks for this post! First I am hearing about this fork! Darn...unfortunately still can't download Joe Rogan Spotify. Guess they haven't found a way around the widevine encryption...(Right now it seems like only a few podcasts are encrypted so other Spotify streams work)

It's always strange to think that there is encrypted data flowing through my software, through my operating system, into my hardware, that somehow I, the user, I am unable to access, but that the hardware can handle just fine. How does this work?

With Widevine L3, it does send your OS unencrypted data. You're free to screen record videos or audio record e.g. PulseAudio Monitor channels of your speakers. You just can't easily convert it to a DRM-free format at speeds faster than realtime.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

I pay $10/mo for YouTube Premium, and my expectation is that I will not have to sit through any ads. A sponsorship is an ad, which violates that expectation, so I use SponsorBlock to skip them.

For channels that I watch regularly, I contribute to their Patreon if they have one. I shouldn't have to sit through a sponsorship segment in addition to that.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

not per se.

but if you are like me and watch a lot of curated playlists, you end up watching the same sponsor segments over and over.

it's like watching anime on primevideo without hitting the skip intro button

it gets annoying pretty soon.

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I enjoy some of his podcasts. Yeah some are a waste of time but many have been spectacular.

To be fair I would agree with you that some of his guests are great (e.g. Quentin Tarantino) and I do enjoy the long-form interviewing. But Rogan himself, to me, gives off bad vibes. Not really sincere or actually interested in his guests more than he is interested in himself. I find he'll say he's interested and come back with some show of how cultured and learned he is by bringing some obscure minutiae. I think he…

> Joe himself is an unaccomplished stoner…

This is an interesting take. I personally find Joe Rogan to be an abhorrent human being that gives a platform to pseudoscientists and white supremacists, but I’ve never heard “his tens of millions of dollars are negated by the fact that he smokes weed” as a criticism.

Out of curiosity, what value does Tim Ferris provide to society? I’m not being sarcastic, I just only know him as the guy that wrote the four hour work week book, which I did not find substantive.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

Realistic alternative is others will pick up the slack

Mass market viewers don't care, adblockers get ad free content, creator gets their slice. We all win

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