More megacorps knowing who I am?
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AWS doesn’t know who I am
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#72I disagree. I think compartmentalization is important.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean it’s not really malicious to design a single-user system. At best it’s passively malicious. Sure, you can always share your personal pizza but you have to deal with the consequences that it was sized for one person and you both might be hungry after. Are you upset about the fact that you can’t have multiple isolated user-accounts on an iPhone?
Oh wow, I've seen some mind bending arguments so far but I sure didn't expect you to defend Apple's condescending way of telling their customers what to do by telling people how they should eat their pizza.
I actually meant the opposite. Nobody is going to stop you from sharing your personal pizza, like it’s yours do whatever you want. But it’s weird to complain to the pizza joint about the portion sizes and that you’re still hungry after splitting one.
Like Apple isn’t misleading anyone, you know when you buy it that it’s a single user system with all the downsides that entails. It’s fine to say “I think Apple should support multiple users to cover my use-case” but not “how dare Apple not support my use-case.”
How dare my toaster not fit bagels! It’s a conspiracy I tell you to get you to also buy a separate bagel toaster!
Like are people really just blind buying devices without even looking to see if they do what you want them to do? If you’re requirements are “I need a tablet to share between me and my kids” why is an iPad even on the table?
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#75It's good that every service has separate credentials. For a counterexample, consider Apple and how they try to restrict you to a single Apple ID. They want everything to be tied to a single person. Every service you use is tied to your Apple ID. It just doesn't match the way that people use computers. For example, I get my computer games and business software billed to the same card, and there's no easy way to chang…
> I need to log in with my personal credentials to download software from the Mac App store. Do you though? Why not just setup a "apps@ .com" and create a new account? > and now her personal iMessages and emails are on it. It's stupid. So just turn these services off? They aren't mandatory.
Registering AppleID involves phone number checking. In some countries getting one without exposing personal information is not trivial.
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#76It's good that every service has separate credentials. For a counterexample, consider Apple and how they try to restrict you to a single Apple ID. They want everything to be tied to a single person. Every service you use is tied to your Apple ID. It just doesn't match the way that people use computers. For example, I get my computer games and business software billed to the same card, and there's no easy way to chang…
How does Apple restrict you to a single Apple ID? I use my personal Apple ID for personal things, my work one for work things, and as an admin of our Apple Business Manager account I can create new Apple IDs for anyone in the company as necessary. To my knowledge Apple doesn't even have a policy of requiring one account, I've certainly been told to set up separate accounts by Apple support teams. Facebook does have t…
It’s more like a single device is limited to a single Apple ID. (At least the mobile ones.) that gets tricky when it comes to, e.g. sharing an iPad with your kids. On computers you can work around it by having different profiles different people use.
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#77This is essentially the classic "internet ID" proposal that's been floated around for a few years, which universally has been regarded as a bad idea.
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#78It's good that every service has separate credentials. For a counterexample, consider Apple and how they try to restrict you to a single Apple ID. They want everything to be tied to a single person. Every service you use is tied to your Apple ID. It just doesn't match the way that people use computers. For example, I get my computer games and business software billed to the same card, and there's no easy way to chang…
How does Apple restrict you to a single Apple ID? I use my personal Apple ID for personal things, my work one for work things, and as an admin of our Apple Business Manager account I can create new Apple IDs for anyone in the company as necessary. To my knowledge Apple doesn't even have a policy of requiring one account, I've certainly been told to set up separate accounts by Apple support teams. Facebook does have t…
Do you use multiple Apple IDs on one device? I tried doing that for some time, and it caused a lot of issues. Maybe it works if you have separate devices for work and for home use, but I use my Macs for both business and home use.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean it’s not really malicious to design a single-user system. At best it’s passively malicious. Sure, you can always share your personal pizza but you have to deal with the consequences that it was sized for one person and you both might be hungry after. Are you upset about the fact that you can’t have multiple isolated user-accounts on an iPhone?
> Are you upset about the fact that you can’t have multiple isolated user-accounts on an iPhone? The iPhone was mentioned once, to connect it’s not possible on either iPhone or iPad. This is about the iPad, a completely different class of device, where it makes sense it would be shared, at least within a family, and has nothing to do with personal pizzas. It'a small point here, but the way you moved the goal post so…
“I want device to be shareable” is very different than “Apple is malicious for not making device shareable.”
I’m not trying to move the goalposts because I think of my iPad as just a larger iPhone. To me they’re the same.
It’s such an odd dynamic because I see so many families sharing an iPad which isn’t multi-user but then treating laptops as personal.
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#80It's good that every service has separate credentials. For a counterexample, consider Apple and how they try to restrict you to a single Apple ID. They want everything to be tied to a single person. Every service you use is tied to your Apple ID. It just doesn't match the way that people use computers. For example, I get my computer games and business software billed to the same card, and there's no easy way to chang…
I feel like several of your problems where you “have to” do this or that, you’re missing the value of iCloud “child” accounts that can be enabled to use the parent account’s things they didn’t pay for. Especially for the literal kids, use a child account. But also use a child account for the work machine so it can use your apps but isn’t your personal messages and photos.
Child accounts don't fix the problem that it is a shared device.
I've never considered creating a fake child account for business use, but I have tried to create some fake Apple IDs for shared devices, so I didn't need to use personal credentials. Unfortunately Apple has blocked these fake accounts from accessing some services, so I had to fall back to using personal accounts.