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To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by david_allison »

Buttons840 wrote: post #68

You know. I've never been interested in these e-ink notebooks where you can write on a digital screen that acts like paper. I've always felt that actual pen and paper were superior. However, if you add some good spaced repetition software to one of these e-notebooks then I think you will have finally surpassed pen and paper for note taking. I'm thinking of something like, you take a note on a page and then save it. A…

AnkiDroid will support in-app drawing shortly[0]. There's already an e-ink mode which removes most animations, and supports image occlusions via third-party apps which use the AnkiDroid API [1].

Happy to discuss improvements for your workflow if it's an Android-based e-ink tablet via Discord[2]/GitHub issues.

[0] https://github.com/ankidroid/Anki-Android/issues/9363

[1] https://github.com/ankidroid/Anki-Android/wiki/Third-Party-A...

[2] https://discord.gg/qjzcRTx

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by muzani »

Jtsummers wrote: post #67
muzani wrote: post #65

Spaced repetition actually took off in recent years. But there's another component of SuperMemo that didn't, incremental reading: https://supermemo.guru/wiki/Incremental_reading It seems a lot more effective than spaced repetition, but also a much higher level of commitment and a higher learning curve. It's sort of like using a power tool. I haven't tried it, but this is a good reminder that I should.

https://getpolarized.io This is a tool meant to help with incremental reading, with support for generating Anki flashcards.

I'm wary that it might not be better than the tool developed by the guy who invented incremental reading.

I'd love to have something for it on mobile, because that's where I spend all my reading time, and that was one of the main advantages of Anki.

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by xkfm »

Jtsummers wrote: post #67
muzani wrote: post #65

Spaced repetition actually took off in recent years. But there's another component of SuperMemo that didn't, incremental reading: https://supermemo.guru/wiki/Incremental_reading It seems a lot more effective than spaced repetition, but also a much higher level of commitment and a higher learning curve. It's sort of like using a power tool. I haven't tried it, but this is a good reminder that I should.

https://getpolarized.io This is a tool meant to help with incremental reading, with support for generating Anki flashcards.

The problem with this tool is you can't review your extracts at the same time you are reviewing your flashcards.

For example, if you have a list of 50 PDFs and you want to incrementally read them, Polarized doesn't have a way of scheduling when you're going to read all 50 PDFs. Supermemo, you don't have worry about that. IMO, that's the key feature of Incremental Reading.

I can chuck dozens of articles at a time into Supermemo, and do not have to worry about forgetting to read them. They'll show up in my reviews over time.

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by grugq »

jschulenklopper wrote: post #59
dajohnson89 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that specific form is called a limerick.

Perhaps because of the AABBA rhyme scheme and the shorter third and fourth line. But in a limerick the first line traditionally introduces a person and a place, which doesn’t happen here.

There once was a pianist from Nantucket …

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by tsumnia »

xvector wrote: post #47

Can spaced repetition be used effectively for things beyond languages? This would have been a godsend had I known about it during college.

Sort of? It depends on the "thing", but spaced repetition is pretty standard for physical activities like martial arts. In essence, you're attending a class that focuses on drilling a particular technique on a regular interval. There isn't much research from sports pedagogy, though I think its more because its just a "known" requirement that doesn't require much new research. However, I would also say that spaced repetition goes beyond simply reviewing Anki flash cards and that there is an element of kinesthetic learning that is necessary to strengthen the learning gains.

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by cryptica »

The most effective trick for me is simply knowing why I need to remember something.

If I don't know its utility value, I won't even be able to recall it an hour later. On the other hand, if I can see the utility, I might be able to remember it decades later after a single exposure.

If I'm using a map with GPS on my phone to find my way around a city, I won't be able to recall any of the buildings or landmarks later and I won't be able to find my way around even after many journeys. On the other hand, if I use street signs and ask around for directions, I will remember everything. In the former case, my brain knows that it can rely on the map and GPS so it doesn't waste resources trying to remember streets, buildings and landmarks.

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by epa »

Buttons840 wrote: post #68

You know. I've never been interested in these e-ink notebooks where you can write on a digital screen that acts like paper. I've always felt that actual pen and paper were superior. However, if you add some good spaced repetition software to one of these e-notebooks then I think you will have finally surpassed pen and paper for note taking. I'm thinking of something like, you take a note on a page and then save it. A…

A key for when tablets will replace paper is when refresh rates get so fast drawing mimics ink on paper. Until the lag is eliminated it won't be replaced.

Re: To remember everything you learn, surrender to this algorithm (2008)

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Post by jarenmf »

It is a great algorithm. It is, however, a boring method and really takes a lot of discipline to make it a habit. For me, the best way to learn anything is have it tied to a fun challenge or a personal project. I've never been successful in the type of just-in-case learning.
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