Guarantee they will begin scanning your devices for unauthorized copyright material very soon if they have not already.
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Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
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Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#72An Apple recruiter recently reached out to me. I am in a fortunate position to turn down opportunities, so I made sure to explain that I am not interested in working for a company that is at the forefront of enabling further infringement on people's privacy. If you are able to push back, do it in any small way that you can.
I don't want to be that guy, but for this job there were lining up 300 more people. Nobody except of a tiny group of nerdy guys (including myself, ofc) is against this apple csam move. Just ask your parents or your non-tech friends if it's "ok" to scan people's phones to find those "bad pedophiles" in order to jail then up for the rest of their life. You will be surprised how much support Apple's initiative has in th…
If you think that you’re completely wrong. I have been asked about it by four non technical people so far after it made national news in the UK. There is a lot of anti surveillance sentiment here and it’s appearing in general public regularly.
I regularly go out with groups of random people on Meetup with no shared technical interest as well and I’m surprised at how much anti tracking and surveillance sentiment there is. It got to the point that out of 25 people on a trip out no one used NHS track and trace because they don’t trust it or don’t own a smartphone. This is across the 20-50 age group.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#73Guarantee they will begin scanning your devices for unauthorized copyright material very soon if they have not already.
Didn't iMusic or whatever upload users' personal high quality files to cloud, to stream them back in lower quality, and then deleted the originals from the users devices? I remember something like that making the news. Imagine being a musician and Apple deletes your originals to stream your own music back to you in low quality.
That was iTunes, but the story checks out.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
some people will add terrorist material (i.e. history and chemistry books), other will add extremist material (religious writings), blasphemous material (Christian or Atheist teachings in Saudi Arabia), and other illegal content Apple doesn’t seem to do that covertly, what is wrong with blaming them when they actually do above things? This is a genuine question, because rn I see no issue with automated searching CP t…
You know how in history, occasionally the good old king would die and his crazy nephew would take over and burn all the peasants? This was possible because the king had absolute power. Now, you might argue that this absolute power in this case is being used for good - but given the brush the US just had with accidental Nero, it’s worth being wary of how tools and powers might not only be used by current powers, but b…
Nero was an OK emperor btw, certainly wasn't actively malicious. The popular image is (christian?) propaganda.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
some people will add terrorist material (i.e. history and chemistry books), other will add extremist material (religious writings), blasphemous material (Christian or Atheist teachings in Saudi Arabia), and other illegal content Apple doesn’t seem to do that covertly, what is wrong with blaming them when they actually do above things? This is a genuine question, because rn I see no issue with automated searching CP t…
Because apple has to change terms of service to permit this But also this is a terrible argument. As a frog i will not wait until i am boiled to raise complaints.
> Because apple has to change terms of service to permit this
Apple's ToS change with every iOS release. You have to accept to continue. Do you ever read them?
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know how in history, occasionally the good old king would die and his crazy nephew would take over and burn all the peasants? This was possible because the king had absolute power. Now, you might argue that this absolute power in this case is being used for good - but given the brush the US just had with accidental Nero, it’s worth being wary of how tools and powers might not only be used by current powers, but b…
Exactly. If you don't want weapons of mass destruction to exist, don't create them and definitely don't tell anyone (too late). If you don't want tools of mass oppression to exist, don't create them. (We are here now.) The fight against Japan in 1945 was important, as is the fight agains child abuse today. But we will have to live with the choises we make, in the short run like I wrote about above and also in the lon…
If you don't want the atmosphere full of toxic corrosive oxygen, don't breathe it out during photosynthesis. (we were here 2.5 billion years ago, worked great for methanogens)
If you don't want to live in oppressive stratified sedentary society don't invent agriculture. (we were here ~dozen millenia ago, worked great for hunter-gatherers)
etc.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#77I am beginning to wonder if this was the plan all along. Back in 2013 via the Snowden leaks, it was revealed Apple was associated with the NSA domestic surveillance program, PRISM. It appears they (NSA and Apple, et al) pulled out due to the level of negative PR. After 8 years, the intelligence community and tech companies figured out they could sell their surveillance through a thinly veiled effort to “protect X gro…
They didn't pull out. Apple discloses over 30,000 customers' data each year without a warrant under PRISM (aka FISA 702) as disclosed in their own transparency report (listed under "FISA orders").
PRISM is just the internal NSA name for it. It continues unabated.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know how in history, occasionally the good old king would die and his crazy nephew would take over and burn all the peasants? This was possible because the king had absolute power. Now, you might argue that this absolute power in this case is being used for good - but given the brush the US just had with accidental Nero, it’s worth being wary of how tools and powers might not only be used by current powers, but b…
Nero was an OK emperor btw, certainly wasn't actively malicious. The popular image is (christian?) propaganda.
Take Hitler then as someone malicious who took advantage of existing laws and systems to abuse the population.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#79An Apple recruiter recently reached out to me. I am in a fortunate position to turn down opportunities, so I made sure to explain that I am not interested in working for a company that is at the forefront of enabling further infringement on people's privacy. If you are able to push back, do it in any small way that you can.
I don't want to be that guy, but for this job there were lining up 300 more people. Nobody except of a tiny group of nerdy guys (including myself, ofc) is against this apple csam move. Just ask your parents or your non-tech friends if it's "ok" to scan people's phones to find those "bad pedophiles" in order to jail then up for the rest of their life. You will be surprised how much support Apple's initiative has in th…
I agree with you, the general public doesn't give a shit. There will be headlines for a few times, some people change their phones, and that'll be it. The biggest of these movements, I think, is the "de-googling" one. There's a myriad of articles, subreddits, guides, websites even, listing alternatives. And look what happened to Google. Nothing.
When the alternative to apple's surveillance is to smash the phone against a wall, and buy something that's much less convenient, suddenly surveillance is not that big of a problem. And this is very important to note because many world's powerful entities are moving in this direction.
Re: Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship
#80I don't get people. It's not fucking E2E encryption when it is being scanned.
That's just trying to change what encryption means.