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New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by doubled112 »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #56
peakaboo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can change it in the UEFI so that Fn acts as Ctrl and vice versa. First thing I do on every thinkpad. It would be very interesting to know what percentage of customers actually wants that Fn key in that location instead of Ctrl.

My T470 has the Fn on the edge, and Ctrl on the inside. I like it because it requires moving my pinky less to hit Ctrl.

My problem isn't Fn and Ctrl, but that Shift may or may not be the same shape.

If Ctrl is on the outside I am guaranteed to hit Shift when I push them both with my pinky straight up.

I have two Lenovo laptops in front of me right now.

The key straight up from Fn on the Ideapad 3 is a pipe. On the Thinkpad the shift key is the correct length (two keys wide).

The two have opposite Fn and Ctrl keys.

Consistency, am I right?

Muscle memory is a thing, and even the same manufacturer isn't doing things the same way between models.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by tomjen3 »

orangegreen wrote: post #46

I've bought numerous Thinkpads and I still can't find myself using them daily because of the awful trackpads. It's not even the tracking, it's the amount of force you need to put on the trackpad to get it to register a click. Also the lack of media keys on Thinkpads is outdated and annoying. If Lenovo fixes these two things I'd gladly use a Thinkpad as my daily laptop.

That is because people who like Thinkpads tend to use the nipple instead.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by SamuelAdams »

Is the P14s exactly the same as the T490? I'm looking at the photos online and the ports and layout is identical to my T490 that I am typing this comment on. I wonder if I can swap the internal components / motherboard?

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by listenallyall »

Lenovo's web site is especially frustrating. They expect customers to know the differences between ThinkPad, IdeaPad, Yoga, etc, and then between the subdivisions like ThinkPad E vs P vs X, etc.

It would be far more customer-friendly if Lenovo made it very easy to say, show me all 15 inch laptops with any dedicated graphics card, and let's go from there.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by tincholio »

platz wrote: post #18
wging wrote: post #15

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You can get around this by mapping Caps Lock to Ctrl, which is easier to press anyway. It's probably a good idea even if you don't use a certain modifier-key-heavy text editor.

The Sigma move is to assign Ctrl onto the Alt key (which is right next to the spacebard), and then Alt to the Capslock Key. Then you can activate Ctrl (alt key) with your thumb (far more frequently) instead of your pinky.

The position next to the spacebar seems more awkward than to the left of "a", especially if you use Emacs or otherwise a lot of Ctrl presses. I currently have the CAPS key mapped so that it's Esc on tap, and Ctrl on hold. Works great.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by nigggle »

vbernat wrote: post #49
nigggle wrote: post #23

I bought this exact model the other day, two days later it was cancelled and a refund was issued as they no longer had the 4K panel in stock. Looks like I'm going to miss out on these AMD CPUs this generation and have to go with an XPS 13 instead.

I am trying to order one. If I unselect Windows, I loose the 4K panel. If I go from 24G to 16G, I loose the 4K panel. If I go from 24G to 32G, I lose the 4K panel. And of course, delays are always 6+ weeks (which is Lenovo lingo to say "forever").

Don't trust it if it says the 4k panel is available. I found the one combo which only had it as they had forgot to remove it as an option.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by MonaroVXR »

kawsper wrote: post #48
nmiquan wrote: post #39

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Yes, Thinkpad's FHD is horrible. So I put a QHD display on my T480s, and my eyes love 'em. The last Mac I used was Mac Air Retina 2012, switched just because of the matte screen.

How's the glossiness on that machine? And how are they compared to the Macbooks?

Depends on which panel the user bought.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by MonaroVXR »

listenallyall wrote: post #75

Lenovo's web site is especially frustrating. They expect customers to know the differences between ThinkPad, IdeaPad, Yoga, etc, and then between the subdivisions like ThinkPad E vs P vs X, etc. It would be far more customer-friendly if Lenovo made it very easy to say, show me all 15 inch laptops with any dedicated graphics card, and let's go from there.

But all of them are great, people in this "thread" are aiming at P series and XPS laptops, but from a performance perspective these aren't that great.

Re: New Laptop: Thinkpad P14s

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Post by platz »

tincholio wrote: post #76
platz wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Sigma move is to assign Ctrl onto the Alt key (which is right next to the spacebard), and then Alt to the Capslock Key. Then you can activate Ctrl (alt key) with your thumb (far more frequently) instead of your pinky.

The position next to the spacebar seems more awkward than to the left of "a", especially if you use Emacs or otherwise a lot of Ctrl presses. I currently have the CAPS key mapped so that it's Esc on tap, and Ctrl on hold. Works great.

It's only awkward next to the spacebar if you use the wrong finger. What key are you currently hitting with your left thumb? That is a whole finger you could be using to hit LALT key, instead of letting it just sit there wasted., and it's very natural. You can use Emacs easily with this configuration for both modifiers.
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