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Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by blake8086 »

ZoFreX wrote: post #62
patio11 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the A/B test, but I still think something a wee closer to http://images1.bingocardcreator.com/blog-images/hn/deep-disc... would kill both the A/B tested options. Bringing in people's psychological need to be above average is great, but I might do that by putting a nice 37Signals style yellow highlight on one of the expensive options (for some value of expensive which would pay for…

Personally, "Tired of overpriced games from soul-crushing megacorps laden with spyware and DRM?" really puts me off.

Are you tired of underpriced games from small indie dev shops without spyware or DRM?

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by sanswork »

slowpoke wrote: post #69

As awesome as this is, I'm quite bothered with the payment options. As it stands, I can't pay even if I wanted. I don't have a CC and all of Paypal, Amazon and Google are utter no-gos for me. It makes me a sad panda that options like PaySafeCard aren't as widespread as I would like them to be.

Why are Paypal, Amazon and Google all no goes for you? I've heard a lot of negativity about Paypal for example but that is entirely from the merchants position.

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by Dysiode »

Wilduck wrote: post #24
Dysiode wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's better than nothing" Agreed. Introversion managed to stay alive through selling their four games for $5 on Steam. That's ultimately not too much better than the current average bundle sale ( http://forums.introversion.co.uk/introversion/viewtopic.php?... ). These deals tap into the reservoir of people who aren't invested enough in the games to pay full price (I forget the exact term for that), and these games c…

Price discrimination. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination

I'm not speaking of price discrimination at all. That would be Valve releasing a game at full price and then a week later putting it on sale for 25% off. This doesn't qualify as price discrimination because they're games that have been around. The value for buying earlier is that you've owned it and had the chance to use it reasonably longer than everyone who is getting it now.

I'm speaking of the specific market of fence-sitters who may have pirated the games but in this case are willing to throw a couple bucks at the games. Those people who who you never would have gotten money from otherwise.

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by slowpoke »

sanswork wrote: post #72
slowpoke wrote: post #69

As awesome as this is, I'm quite bothered with the payment options. As it stands, I can't pay even if I wanted. I don't have a CC and all of Paypal, Amazon and Google are utter no-gos for me. It makes me a sad panda that options like PaySafeCard aren't as widespread as I would like them to be.

Why are Paypal, Amazon and Google all no goes for you? I've heard a lot of negativity about Paypal for example but that is entirely from the merchants position.

For Paypal (and partially for Amazon):

You might have heard of the shit they pulled with Wikileaks (freezing accounts, withholding money, kicking them out of the service for no reason etc). And that wasn't the first time they did something like this, at least for Paypal. I refuse to fund such - in my opinion - criminal activities.

And for Google:

Call me paranoid, call me stubborn, but I'm one of those people who avoid Google like the plague and are extremely critical of them in general (I'm not a hater, though, there are quite some good things which Google does, I just refuse to use their services).

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by brianleb »

slowpoke wrote: post #69

As awesome as this is, I'm quite bothered with the payment options. As it stands, I can't pay even if I wanted. I don't have a CC and all of Paypal, Amazon and Google are utter no-gos for me. It makes me a sad panda that options like PaySafeCard aren't as widespread as I would like them to be.

I think HIB did due diligence by offering CC, PayPal, Amazon, and Google. I honestly think you're an extreme outlier and would fall into a fraction of a percent of their users. I'm not saying that it's OK to marginalize you, but if I were them, with complete honesty I would have thought that those four options would cover everybody, and then doing something like Bitcoin would be going an extra mile. I've never heard of PaySafeCard (not to say that it can't be cool if I haven't heard of it, because it is), so I think it may have a long way to go before it's widely accepted.

Edit: You elucidated why you aren't using these services here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2809572, but really you've painted yourself into a box. It's not that you can't use those services, it's that you won't. I understand why you don't want to (really, I feel you, I'm an idealist too), but at a certain point I just have to bite the bullet and if I want something bad enough and I can only pay for it in certain ways, then I'm going to do it.

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by brianleb »

chanux wrote: post #4

Linux version pays the best average amount. Is there any message?

That has been the case in every bundle. Linux pays more than Mac pays more than Windows.

I would suggest that Windows users cover the entire range of users, including a lot of minors. It's the most accessible and prevalent OS, and therefore people with the least amount of money are most likely to be using Windows.

For Mac users: Macs are without a doubt more expensive than WinPCs. Serious question: can you get a new Mac laptop or desktop for under $800? These people have more money to spend on computers and more money to spend in general.

For Linux users... I don't know. I would posit that Linux users tend to be more educated than the average person (based on personal experience), and that more education correlates with more income (this I can actually cite: http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm). I know, a stretch, but I to me they are reasonable arguments, if lacking in evidence.

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by BrianBerk »

sequoia wrote: post #17

vvvvvvv is awesome by the way. You can try it here (assuming you have flash installed/enabled): http://www.kongregate.com/games/TerryCavanagh/vvvvvv-demo

Not only that, but they just upgraded to VVVVVV 2.0, which has a level editor and bunch of really good new levels. I'm a huge fan of the game, and this is like the best thing that happened to me today.

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by slowpoke »

brianleb wrote: post #75
slowpoke wrote: post #69

As awesome as this is, I'm quite bothered with the payment options. As it stands, I can't pay even if I wanted. I don't have a CC and all of Paypal, Amazon and Google are utter no-gos for me. It makes me a sad panda that options like PaySafeCard aren't as widespread as I would like them to be.

I think HIB did due diligence by offering CC, PayPal, Amazon, and Google. I honestly think you're an extreme outlier and would fall into a fraction of a percent of their users. I'm not saying that it's OK to marginalize you, but if I were them, with complete honesty I would have thought that those four options would cover everybody, and then doing something like Bitcoin would be going an extra mile. I've never heard…

You're right, I kind of miss-phrased that. And yes, I am aware that I'm part of a very tiny fraction of customers. My post shouldn't be understood as a demand or anything, I was just rambling.

Oh, and for PSC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paysafecard , if you (or anyone else) is interested. It's based in the EU (Austria to be exact) and is used and promoted here, but it's pretty much unknown in the US (and the rest of the world) as far as I know, so I'm not really surprised when people tell me they've never heard of it.

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by MichaelGG »

slowpoke wrote: post #74
sanswork wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are Paypal, Amazon and Google all no goes for you? I've heard a lot of negativity about Paypal for example but that is entirely from the merchants position.

For Paypal (and partially for Amazon): You might have heard of the shit they pulled with Wikileaks (freezing accounts, withholding money, kicking them out of the service for no reason etc). And that wasn't the first time they did something like this, at least for Paypal. I refuse to fund such - in my opinion - criminal activities. And for Google: Call me paranoid, call me stubborn, but I'm one of those people who avo…

What about a prepaid Amex card? (I'm assuming you consider VISA and MasterCard to be criminal as well due to their Wikileaks behaviour.)

Re: Humble Bundle #3 is Live

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Post by NickPollard »

ConstantineXVI wrote: post #60
bdonlan wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I already have three out of five of those games on steam, and I bet a lot of other people do too; they've been on sale enough times. It's also very early in the campaign; as I recall there were a number of 'high rollers' that donated very large amounts (IIRC, Notch donated over $10,000). Once they come in the average might go up a bit.

Notch already dropped $2K even and is sitting at #2 right now, "@witnessgame"(who I'm guessing is Jonathan Blow) beat him with $2,718.28

Waiting for someone to beat him out with $3,141.59.
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