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Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by quantified »

throaway46546 wrote: post #40
alecst wrote: post #8

Not only are they not recyclable, but there's a water cost, energy cost, and a pollution cost to making them. Obviously the fate of humanity doesn't depend on what we do with our coffee cups. But in my opinion the best solution is to have people bring their own cups and just reuse them, and unfortunately only a small percent of people do that. Back in grad school, to get people to bring their own cups more often, we…

I've seen someone bring their own bags to the grocery store like four or five times since the bag ban got implemented here in LA County. Everyone just gets the thicker plastic "reusable" bags and treats them as disposable. Honestly I think it has made things worse when it comes to the amount of plastic use.

Maybe if they were $2 each instead of $0.25 then...

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by elondaits »

underseacables wrote: post #15
wrzuteczka wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s how it still worked in the 90s in post-communist Central European countries. Then we got flooded with plastic just like the Westerners.

I was amazed in Berlin the recycling program that makes it very easy to recycle cans and bottles. People made it a job to pickup and search through trash so they could recycle. A can deposit would be welcomed, but maybe I’m old and just remember crushing cans to fill up trash bags to get $7. Sure was fun to get that money as a kid.

It’s not just that it’s easy… it’s also how much they give you per can or bottle (up to 25 cents)… it’s quite a significant amount, so you end up saving the bottles and taking them to the supermarket to get the refund.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

alecst wrote: post #8

Not only are they not recyclable, but there's a water cost, energy cost, and a pollution cost to making them. Obviously the fate of humanity doesn't depend on what we do with our coffee cups. But in my opinion the best solution is to have people bring their own cups and just reuse them, and unfortunately only a small percent of people do that. Back in grad school, to get people to bring their own cups more often, we…

>But in my opinion the best solution is to have people bring their own cups and just reuse them, and unfortunately only a small percent of people do that.

It's also systematically/institutionally discouraged at most places. It was before 2020, and even more so now.

Most places (e.g. many Starbucks) will not let you use a reusable cup when you actually try, even while advertising their "green" policies.

Go ahead and try it, most of the time they'll suggest you pour it into your own reusable cup right after they pour it into a disposable one for you.

There are many other reasons to avoid letting a corpo make your drink.

Re: Impact Campaign: SEAL Calls On Starbucks To #UpTheCup

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Post by fsckboy »

this is a distraction: paper and plastic, recycled or not, are not a huge pollution problem, they're just not.

they do just fine in landfills, and the world is frankly not running out of space for burying them.

There are important environmental issues to address, and exhausting everybody's patience on completely non toxic, inert or biodegradable "stuff" is missing the opportunity to focus attention on actual threats to health, safety and the future.

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