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Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by rjd » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 3:55 AM UTC

spooneybarger wrote: post #65

rjd wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has great customer service. Your misunderstanding lays with the fact you are assuming you are the customer, when in fact you (as the user) are the product (your data) being sold (via ad sense automation). So put simply "if they are not receiving money off you are not the customer". Your relationship is a raw resource exchange of your data with the payment of free services from them. In a sense they are farming…

I've paid for google apps for domains in the past and the service has been barely better than when I was using the free version, so while you point is valid, the statement that google customer service is lacking for many paying customers is also true.

Fair enough, I've seen some really good service from the ad sense guys, maybe its jsut the team I dealt with I don't know.

I've never payed for Google Apps so didn't comment on it, and also didn't want to muddy my point as there is a definite grey area with a lot of Google uses in terms of thigns like blogger which make users also customers.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by jshen » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 3:56 AM UTC

The bottom line is that you need to own and control your identity online. You can't leave it in the hands of others if you gain significant value from your identity. Most people don't gain much value from their identity, but those that do need to own and control it.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by bugsy » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 3:59 AM UTC

jshen wrote: post #72

The bottom line is that you need to own and control your identity online. You can't leave it in the hands of others if you gain significant value from your identity. Most people don't gain much value from their identity, but those that do need to own and control it.

I agree and I don't limit it to online, but real life as well. The idea that a person's identity is something to be granted, approved of, regulated or controlled by corporations and governments is outrageous, offensive, and to be resisted with all necessary force. My identity is my own.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by dorian-graph » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:06 AM UTC

tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this.

How do you plan doing that as I'd like to do the same.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by dorian-graph » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:09 AM UTC

Aqwis wrote: post #6

> It is not a simple matter of using a “real name” - as much of a problematic grey area as that is. Another person cited in my Google+ article has now had their account deleted for the simple reason that they were using Gmail and Google+ with multiple account sign-in: Does this mean I can actually get banned for using more than one GMail account? What the fuck?

> Does this mean I can actually get banned for using more than one GMail account?

If this were the case they wouldn't have [recently ?] allowed people to stay signed into several accounts at once.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by michaelw » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:15 AM UTC

rorrr wrote: post #43

tectonic wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a good alternative to Google Voice? I want an online voicemail service and call forwarding for when I travel.

voxox.com - free youmail.com - free? phonebooth.com - $20/month ringcentral.com - $20/month line2.com - $10-15/month 3jam.com - $5/month

I self-host openvbx which is a pretty nice application running on the twillio.com service.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by kbd » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:21 AM UTC

tectonic wrote: post #18

tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Is there a good alternative to Google Voice? I want an online voicemail service and call forwarding for when I travel.

I use Youmail for voicemail and have been really happy with it. I pay the $20/year or whatever it is for a paid account.

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by cubicle67 » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:25 AM UTC

dorian-graph wrote: post #74

tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. How do you plan doing that as I'd like to do the same.

can't speak for tshtf, but yesterday I just put my gmail details in Mail an it spent most of the night donwloading my entire gmail history. I'm a bit more comfortable knowing I now have a local copy

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by Uchikoma » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:47 AM UTC

tshtf wrote: post #3

I use Google for everything from Google Apps to Google Voice. Given this recent behaviour of Google, I'm doing something wrong. Over the next few weeks, I plan to do the following: 1) Transition my gmail account over to a domain I own. I'll email everyone I know, and change all my known addresses. Thankfully, Google lets me connect via IMAP to retrieve all of this. 2) Move my Google Voice number to my VOIP carrier. T…

Good post would have been: "What I have done: ..."

Re: Google Plus Deleting Accounts En Masse: No Clear Answers

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Post by iamdave » Sun, Jul 24, 2011, 4:57 AM UTC

alayne wrote: post #64

How long are people going to tolerate the tyranny of large companies controlling social interaction? Google+ has all kinds of terms of service that I find infringing of free speech. Facebook has their own terms. I think we need to stop being sharecroppers and serfs and develop social network solutions that are distributed and open, or at least encourage the projects that are working on it already. The amount of press…

Everytime I see someone referencing "free speech" in a way that makes it painfully obvious they skipped over the words "CONGRESS shall make no laws restricting..." I want to bang my head against a wall.

Google is a company, a company that's providing you a service free of charge. They are 100% within their right to tell you how not to use their product.