I have tried Plantnet; it works as expected. But looking through the website, I might give this one a try and compare it to Plantnet to see who's better.
Candide – Identify Plants with a Photo
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The iNaturalist app does a spectacular job at identifying plants (and insects, fish, birds…), even disambiguating based on your location You label geotagged images with the AIs suggestion if you agree with it and then other users can either confirm or suggest a different / more specific species.
You got me curious, so I tried that app, and I'm getting "Unknown species" for every single one of my plants... I guess no identification is better than bad identification.
Perhaps they are unknown species! Hah, well, sorry my recommendation didn’t come through, I can imagine it performs better on common plants everyone takes pictures of, which is what I’m identifying when I walk around town.
Still, if you post the plants under a more general species other users can identify it mentally, adding to the data set.
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You got me curious, so I tried that app, and I'm getting "Unknown species" for every single one of my plants... I guess no identification is better than bad identification.
Is it perhaps also a difference in intended use? If iNaturalist is for wildlife and uses location heavily, eg identifying tropical houseplants indoors in a different region might not work.
The GPS helps with a “seen nearby” weight, but it shouldn’t exclude anything. Could be a factor of photography, with some plants it’s easier to get a nice canonical leaf shape than others. Taking a wide angle of a potted plant such that the whole plant is in frame might not provide enough detail, so there’s a learning curve in knowing how to photography for the algorithms benefit, kind of like learning how to phrase search queries for better Google results
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#74How is this better than Inaturalist? https://www.inaturalist.org/
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#75Nice concept. Unfortunately, I have tried to identify some of my plants but it could not identify correctly a single one. Just an endless procession of at best similar plants, most of the time completely dissimilar. I think this is another naive model that just tries to push entire problem to AI. That is unfortunately what I am seeing nowadays, very unimaginative. Just try to have fun with parameters of the network u…
Flora Incognita, a free plant identification app for Android and iOS, developed by a German university, does that. You choose a category first, like "tree", "flower", "grass" or "fern" and it will guide you through the process, trying to identify the plant with as few photos as necessary. Common ones it will identify from a single image, for others, it will e.g. prompt to take a close-up photo of the bark, bloom or t…
Funny enough, I only get a 403 Forbidden error when opening that website. And I am located in Germany with a German IP. Though my server at Hetzner (also in Germany) has no problem retrieving contents from that domain.
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To be honest, nothing works better than Plantnet for identifying plants. They do the pre-selection where you choose wich organ you're looking at (trunk, leaf, flower, fruit, ...).
Plantnet is a gem, they don't even want you to "register"/"connect with FB/Google" for "tracking" purposes
I think it’s a research project and not a commercial VC-money-burning startup. I highly recommend PlantNet as well.
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Flora Incognita, a free plant identification app for Android and iOS, developed by a German university, does that. You choose a category first, like "tree", "flower", "grass" or "fern" and it will guide you through the process, trying to identify the plant with as few photos as necessary. Common ones it will identify from a single image, for others, it will e.g. prompt to take a close-up photo of the bark, bloom or t…
Funny enough, I only get a 403 Forbidden error when opening that website. And I am located in Germany with a German IP. Though my server at Hetzner (also in Germany) has no problem retrieving contents from that domain.
To much traffic from HN for that small shared webspace :)
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I have been using plantnet for a few years and have been pretty happy with it. The ability to contribute+validate your identification is great. It does fail sometimes but it's pretty good, and the UI has improved in recent releases.
I have to agree on PlantNet. It is good enough to come up with a general name of a plant (ragwort), that you can then look up in a local plant guidebook to find out the specific variety (common ragwort). Hopefully, a privacy-friendly phone (ie Apple) manufacturer acquires them and does deep OS integration with the app.
And leaving out those that are using other platform without the app.
Currently PlantNet works on Android, iOS and web.
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Flora Incognita, a free plant identification app for Android and iOS, developed by a German university, does that. You choose a category first, like "tree", "flower", "grass" or "fern" and it will guide you through the process, trying to identify the plant with as few photos as necessary. Common ones it will identify from a single image, for others, it will e.g. prompt to take a close-up photo of the bark, bloom or t…
I've been using an app called PlantNet that works similarly. Upload a photo, tell the app which part of the plant is in the photo (leaf, flower, fruit, bark), and it'll tell you what the plant is. Highly recommended as well, almost always identifies the plant with just one photo. I'll have to check out flora incognita sometime.
plantnet works very well. I have also used Google Lens (the magic button on Google Photos on Android) but I have the subjective feeling that plantnet works more reliably for plant identification.
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Would it be possible to train the model to identify the features and then just have it run those through a trie of plant classifications? Trying to bake classifications into the model does seem silly but you still need an element of computer vision if you want to do this.
That's exactly what I thought up without having any experience in the area. So, basically do what a person would do -- identify simple features visually and then consult the book to go through decision tree to figure out what you are looking at based on these features. As you go through decision tree, you keep excluding more and more possibilities until you are left with only one match. You would never mistake oak wi…
That’s the same problem you might have with a self driving car driven by an ML algorithm: is that an open lane or someone wearing a black outfit with white stripes?