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Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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FWIW, Brett Slatkin at Google reached out via Google+ to try and help this guy. Looks like they made the connect: https://plus.google.com/u/0/116969159384245484847/posts/Z1UH...

> FWIW

Not much. They're only doing damage control. I wonder whether Matt Cutts is on holiday or something, by the way..

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Except it's an impossible solution for a lot of people, including myself. My name as a domain name is taken, and was taken long ago.

On all available tlds? Really?

well having me@lastname.ly would require you to explain "that's a .ly not .com" and therefore not solve this particular problem

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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I think there's an important lesson here that you can take home right now: If your primary email is an @gmail.com address, you have your head firmly in the lion's mouth. You can backup your data. You can have fallback tools and services. You cannot backup your identity. And if that identity is controlled by Google, you are tying your online existence for the duration to the foibles of a publically traded company with…

How does this solve said issue? Using Google Apps means the big G still controls all your data.

Actually that works quite well. If your photo accounts, your whatever accounts etc are all tied to a non-google login, then it won't matter that your google account is gone.

THE PROBLEM is that many places only accept google/facebook if not facebook alone. Although I have no freaken' idea why, it took a minute after adding google login to my site to add facebook, openid, etc..

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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The world would be a better place if if companies focused on "people", and not on "money". Of course that's unrealistic. But I don't care. I grew up believing in Star-Trek-style society. You know... "Social problems are gone; people are free to devote themselves to improving themselves; etc". I honestly believed that humanity would someday achieve this. I used to believe most people were inherently good, and that the…

Even in Star Trek with the ability to replicate nearly anything, they had to introduce money.. gold pressed latinum. /me puts his geek away

Only as a storytelling device. And in Deep Space 9, the Ferengi Nog was willing to spend his entire life savings of Latinum at the request of his friend Jake, just to buy Jake's dad a baseball card, simply to make him happy.

I hope one day I do something like that for someone. Maybe on my deathbed or something.

I don't know; I just wish people were... better people. To each other. I know they never will be, but I'd rather hope for this fantasy than accept grim reality.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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post #23

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The world would be a better place if if companies focused on "people", and not on "money". Of course that's unrealistic. But I don't care. I grew up believing in Star-Trek-style society. You know... "Social problems are gone; people are free to devote themselves to improving themselves; etc". I honestly believed that humanity would someday achieve this. I used to believe most people were inherently good, and that the…

I sympathize with your idealistic sort of thinking but it is unreasonable. Corporations (which is what Google is) are responsible to shareholders. The purpose of a corporation by definition is to maximize the bottom line for the shareholder. It has nothing to do with being good to people. The only way that this guy's problem will get solved is if enough people catch wind of his situation that it affects the fairly po…

"The purpose of a corporation by definition is to maximize the bottom line for the shareholder."

No, the purpose of a corporation is to efficiently organize work.

Fundamentally, corporations, and the entire economic system, exist for only one purpose: to create a better human society. Profit is the incentive to get them to work for the greater good, but it's not the end-goal. We've temporarily lost sight of that, but sooner or later we're going to have to redefine corporations so we can keep the good (competitive drive), and discard the bad (profit at the expense of humanity).

Personally, I would be very interested to see minimum holding times for shares (incentivizing long-term behavior), and maximum lifetimes for corporate personhood (corporations should all die at some point, just like other people).

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Even in Star Trek with the ability to replicate nearly anything, they had to introduce money.. gold pressed latinum. /me puts his geek away

Only as a storytelling device. And in Deep Space 9, the Ferengi Nog was willing to spend his entire life savings of Latinum at the request of his friend Jake, just to buy Jake's dad a baseball card, simply to make him happy. I hope one day I do something like that for someone. Maybe on my deathbed or something. I don't know; I just wish people were... better people. To each other. I know they never will be, but I'd r…

And as long as we're geeking out, money existed but not in the Federation. So, not for humanity. Outside cultures had it, which made them an interesting foil for a humanity whose abundance taught them to value other things.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

#77
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Google+ makes getting backup of all your data really easy ( https://www.google.com/takeout/ ). I'm really worried about Google horror stories but I like using their services, so I'll just settle with doing regular backups.

Sounds like a great service. Then I went to use it... it doesn't backup email?! I got my contacts and some random stuff that I didn't know I had (and don't care about). But where's my couple of gigs of email? Is there a different service for that?

http://www.dataliberation.org/ has methods for retrieving pretty much all of your google data.

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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The problem with having your own domain for email is the communication factor. When I tell someone my email is charles.lastname@gmail.com, there's no miscommunication. Worst case I have to spell out my last name, but generally if someone's asking for email they already have my last name. If you buy a domain, nowadays, you have few options with respect to getting an email that sounds legit, mature, and isn't long and/…

i@yourname.com Solves the problem you raised.

Doesn't pass the verbal test. Is that "I" or is that "eye" or is it "aye"?

Re: Google Deletes Last 7 Years Of User's Digital Life, Shrugs

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Except it's an impossible solution for a lot of people, including myself. My name as a domain name is taken, and was taken long ago.

On all available tlds? Really?

For a good portion of my people (in my experience, at least 50%) any domain but .com might as well not exist. With them, ".com" is four characters that must ritually be applied to all domains to appease the computer gods.

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On all available tlds? Really?

well having me@lastname.ly would require you to explain "that's a .ly not .com" and therefore not solve this particular problem

Ditto. .com is safe to tell people, anything else can lead to confusion.
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