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Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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I like giving people a choice whether they want to buy something repairable/configurable or not. Minimal government intervention. Let the market decide.

> Minimal government intervention

Easy to say. Hard to do.

That fuzzy wavering line is where we all argue.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Hi Nirav, exciting times ahead! Key highlights I'd like to point out is that you nailed the screen specs (3:2 and brightness) as well as the 1080p camera which is something that has always annoyed me. Do you have a timeline of how long you expect to keep the mainboard design replaceable with this frame? I'd personally love to see an AMD chip in there over Intel but this is right up there for my next laptop purchase (…

Thanks! We aren't able to announce anything yet, but we have certainly designed for being able to support different CPU platforms, and for folks to switch between them by upgrading just the mainboard or the mainboard+memory.

What is the likelihood of a 4K (like 3840x2400) screen option appearing anytime in the near future?

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

Which battery controller are you using? I've had trouble replacing the cells on my MacBook Pro 2014 Retina 15" A1398.

If it's a TI BQ20Z451, will you keep the default unseal code?

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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I find numpad throws off the alignment of the keyboard relative to the touchpad and to the weight of the device. You clearly want a numpad, but I would suggest most users should avoid them, particularly if the will use the laptop on their lap.

I would love to have a 10-key option, and to that end I have attempted using a wireless option. That device however won't even pair to my laptop. I would even be willing to use a wired one, but not enough of me to make it viable for someone to make. So many shortcut keys in my software are missing for a laptop keyboard. Instead, I have to use a full sized external keyboard and carry it around with me instead of just…

What about a hex numpad? IPv6Buddy is a real shipping product, according to their longstanding website.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Um, this thing has actual buttons, so clearly not a rip off of a MacBook. It also has what appears to be a dedicated power button. Also, this thing is user repairable. That's clearly not copied from Apple. Edit: so not a dedicated power button, but an integrated finger print reader. uh-oh, case is getting weaker ;-)

> To make device security convenient, we also built a Windows Hello-compatible fingerprint reader into the power button It's both a dedicated power button and a finger print reader.

So, uh, like a MacBook?

(For the record I'm not bothered by the similarities; I honestly think that if you go minimalist with your design language you kind of converge on this look. I would offer the gentlest of criticisms, though, in the way the up and down arrow keys are half-height but the left and right are full. That's another trend Apple started and it is bad. Ironically, Apple's current laptops are moving away from it again!)

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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I like giving people a choice whether they want to buy something repairable/configurable or not. Minimal government intervention. Let the market decide.

We are fans of proving there is a market for this by building and selling it ourselves, but there are categories where the start-up costs for new entrants are impossibly high and the incumbents are actively opposed to repairability. Even for notebooks, the capital required is non-trivial.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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From the web site, the selling point seems to be around this being a "right to repair" laptop. What's a bit unclear to me is that it seems the Framework Laptop is not be under an Open Source license, unlike the Pinebook Pro, the Librem 14 or the MNT Reform- the MNT being the most "user serviceable" as well as most repairable. Is your laptop fully open source, or if not, what makes it special or different from these o…

For me, "open source" with respect to hardware would imply getting the PCB layouts and other such info that would enable me to modify the electronics and/or produce my own - like a software "fork". The "right to repair" tells me that I would be able to get replacement parts from 3rd party suppliers. Once upon a time, Television units also came with the circuit diagrams that helped third-party repair shops troubleshoo…

That's a good distinction to draw, and certainly clarifies things in some ways. The line between the two is somewhat blurry.

Back in the day you're talking about, components were often discreet enough that they could be replaced. Today even something as simple as a capacitor is often difficult to replace on a modern circuit board due to a variety of factors.

Certainly the large companies (Apple in particular) creates legal barriers to buying chips and other components. I think the distinction between availability and open source will be an interesting one to see how it plays out when hardware is involved.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Framework Founder here! I am happy to answer any questions on the product.

1. Are you able to limit the min/max charge of the battery to reduce wear / increase longevity? For example, if I'm usually plugged into an outlet then I would want to limit my max charge to 80% or 60% since high charge levels degrade the battery faster, but I wouldn't want to disconnect the charger because then I'd be pointlessly burning through battery cycles.

2. Coreboot: whats the status on that?

3. When I violently yank my laptop in any random direction, the military-grade type-c cables that I forgot were plugged into all 4 ports on my framework laptop will naturally put significant strain on the type-c ports on the modules. My question is: how possible is it that I manage to also damage the interior usb type-c port on the laptop body?

4. What run-time loaded closed source binary blobs are needed for the full use of the hardware in one of your pre-built configurations?

5. Repair shops can get access to your schematics after signing some forms (presumably involving a NDA). Can I sign the same forms to get the same access?

6. If you cease to exist, everyone essentially just bought a bunch of proprietary dongles that are unlikely to be reused due to their size/shape. This would lead to the exact opposite of your goals by directly causing e-waste. Why won't that happen?

7. Is the fan, in any way, a standard form factor / are there models from competing brands that would work in that spot? I don't know how loud your fan is, but if I was unhappy with the noise from the fan it would be good to know that I could consider other competing models.

Re: The Framework Laptop is now shipping

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Thanks! We aren't able to announce anything yet, but we have certainly designed for being able to support different CPU platforms, and for folks to switch between them by upgrading just the mainboard or the mainboard+memory.

What is the likelihood of a 4K (like 3840x2400) screen option appearing anytime in the near future?

We don't have any plans we can share yet, but we did design the display to be easy to replace by putting it behind a magnet-attach bezel and using fasteners to affix it the lid.
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