Brave Search beta • Hacker News Board

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by judge2020 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:46 PM UTC

vntok wrote: post #50

judge2020 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't even realize the extent of the referral codes. Imagine if Chrome auto-inserted their own amazon affiliate links when people typed in Amazon.com - people would be up in arms.

Why would people be in arms? Seems like a perfectly fine thing to do. They are literally referring people with buy intent to amazon's deep product pages.

I've since clarified my comment, I meant if Chrome inserted affiliate links, not Google (search).

For chrome doing it, the same applies to Brave as those people would have visited binance.us regardless of if Brave inserted their referral code link there.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by schmorptron » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:47 PM UTC

staticassertion wrote: post #23

Seems quite fast, good UX overall. I like that it gives me information like "all results from Brave" so that if they do fall back I know about it. DDG has a 'bang syntax' where I can do things like '!rust' to start searching the rust docs from my url - I like that a lot, I wonder if there's anything similar here or if I could work around that somehow.

They already do, at least partially. Adding !g to the end of a search redirects to google.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by imwillofficial » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:48 PM UTC

I’m stoked on this. Brave search may truly bring some new blood to the browser/search wars. This is what we desperately need as google gets less and less useful.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by jonathansampson » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:48 PM UTC

55555 wrote: post #12

tomcooks wrote: post #3

Very curious on how this is going to work, especially advertisement-wise

They say it's their own index. That's amazing if true (I wouldn't put it past them to lie). It's super fast and the results (formatting, snippets, etc) look a lot like Google.

What reason would we have to lie? Thank you for the kind words and support otherwise Please do let us know if there is ever anything we can do for you.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by bart__ » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:48 PM UTC

zanethomas wrote: post #69

compare search results for "lab leak" https://search.brave.com/search?q=lab+leak https://www.google.com/search?q=lab+leak https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lab+leak https://www.bing.com/search?q=lab+leak

What am I supposed to see? All engines give the same or very similar results for me

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by didip » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:49 PM UTC

oh, wow! Not bad at all considering they are building their own index. I like their results better than DDG.

Between Brave and Vivaldi, I think moving out of the Google world for common folks is a possibility now.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by austinshea » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:49 PM UTC

brave is bad

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by jonathansampson » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:50 PM UTC

Yoric wrote: post #45

kypro wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this? I get that it's not easy to build a good search engine, but on the surface it doesn't seem to be that hard a technical problem to solve either. Is it simply that the R&D required to build something competitive is too high for most companies?

Do not forget that Brave (the browser) was designed/marketed as part of the US Culture Wars, basically as a Firefox-but-for-Conservatives. Brave (the search engine) apparently follows the same strategy. The reason for having this index is basically political. Brave doesn't want to be impacted by Google or Bing's editorial choices. Of course, Brave Search will certainly be doing its own editorial choices.

Brave is just a browser. It exists to empower the user, regardless of their personal politics. On "editorial choices," we've proposed Goggles, which you can read more about at https://brave.com/goggles.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by jonathansampson » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:51 PM UTC

isoskeles wrote: post #41

If they add bang operators, I might trial switching over from ddg.

We have them today

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by counternotions » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

jonathansampson wrote: post #35

colesantiago wrote: post #18

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I still wouldn't use it since it falls back to Bing or Google.

You're referring to Fallback Mixing , which is off by default. You have to enable it in https://search.brave.com/settings . When enabled, this feature will (at times) pull in results from Google via an anonymous query, routed through the browser. Read more about it here: https://search.brave.com/help/google-fallback

What incentive do Google and Bing have to share free SERP data to Brave in an anonymous channel?