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Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
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Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#72Seriously, what's the matter with this guy? I thought he was just really naive but I can't see an explanation for doing something like this that isn't malicious.
Even if you include malicious explanations, I still struggle to see this leading to something that will benefit him.
He has a kink for public himulation.
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's clear from Lee's words and actions that that's exactly what he thought. That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality, led very predictably to him reacting to people starting to talk about leaving by trying to tighten his grip on everything—and everything slipping through his fingers.
> That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality... Oh, people barely know the half of it... and for those wondering just how bad it can get, peruse one of the court cases currently against him personally. https://corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compressed.pdf
Hah, I've been trying to be fairly circumspect in my descriptions throughout this, as all I knew about Lee was what I'd seen in the stories about Freenode—but yikes, that's pretty crazy. Makes what he's been doing here make perfect sense, though.
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#74Wow, they really think they own the communities just because people chose to use them for IRC? How fucking entitled and arrogant . I don't even use it, but death to Freenode. Obviously somebody thought they found a gold mine, but in their tunnel vision is so focused on "owning" something that they never owned, that they're willing to burn the whole place down to keep "owning" it.
is it really any different than say.. Discord? or a subreddit? it always stuck me as amazing in how much autonomy IRC channels tend to have on various servers, especially as the internet has changed in the past 20 years. Between mobs wanting "accountability" for speech they don't like, the increases in liability, the MSM targeting any platform that has any free speech or autonomy to it (be it Substack, podcasts, E2EE…
I was removed as the founding moderator of a subreddit. Fun times.
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#75Freenode: Current global users 49980 Libera: Current global users 32769 Freenode's decline in users over the past month: http://www.hinner.com/ircstat/Socip_F_2.gif Comparison showing Freenode decline and Libera rise: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php Probably won't be long before Freenode is effectively dead. Edit: Also see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27502059 for a projection and more stats.
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#76The thing is, most people will just stay, and the freak behind Freenode will have numbers to back up his claims, that his "community" is strong. Who knows how many of those users just keep running irssi in screen or have it configured on bouncer, checking it once a year when they need to ask question. Maybe over long time, the numbers will shift. But most people just don't care about the platform they chat through.
I'm glad someone else in the comments posted this link: https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php which clearly indicates freenode is tanking and libera is matching it but upwards. In a month it'll be overtaken; I think there may be a lot of inertia from people who have a load of irc channels open but don't actively interact with it, as well as old webpages pointing to the freenode servers. But it's a matter of time, no…
The years around 2000 were wild, then everything calmed down year after year
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#77Why doesn't the new Freenode staff just shut down the IRC servers? That would be a lot less work than killing off each channel individually.
That's sort of my question. What's the end goal for Freenode? They're burning the network to the ground. Is there some positive outcome for them here that I'm missing?
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's clear from Lee's words and actions that that's exactly what he thought. That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality, led very predictably to him reacting to people starting to talk about leaving by trying to tighten his grip on everything—and everything slipping through his fingers.
> That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality... Oh, people barely know the half of it... and for those wondering just how bad it can get, peruse one of the court cases currently against him personally. https://corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compressed.pdf
This reads like a day time soap, but it also sounds like many other stories. The fact that they referenced Uber's start up culture made me laugh.
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
That low? IRC is truly dead But then again everyone is on Discord now so no surprise
As a flourishing community of the interwebs maybe, just maybe. IRC as a tool is certainly not dead. Former IRCOP.
How does IRC work on mobile these days?
Last time I used IRC seriously, I had to get off the train because I was chatting more on mobile than not and the mobile clients were basically un-serviceable (IIRC, protocol is too chatty and stateful for reliable connection on a device continuously changing its physical network connection).
Re: Last remaining 1000+ user community channel seized by Freenode staff
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's clear from Lee's words and actions that that's exactly what he thought. That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality, led very predictably to him reacting to people starting to talk about leaving by trying to tighten his grip on everything—and everything slipping through his fingers.
> That, combined with a fragile ego and controlling personality... Oh, people barely know the half of it... and for those wondering just how bad it can get, peruse one of the court cases currently against him personally. https://corrupt.tech/1708590130-ocr-compressed.pdf
Holy shit. This is crazy if it's true.
> For example, he told-LTM employees that he wanted to hire a female candidate simply because he wanted to have sex with her. Similarly, Lee expressed his desire to set up a "modeling agency" in the Hollywood Hills that would actually be a front for illegal prostitution (i.e., the "models" would be paid escorts). To that end, Lee circulated a memo to male LTM executives advising them to make sure and wear condoms when having sex with the "models."
I really hope they have a copy of that memo. That alone would be damning.