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Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I mean it would look bad if he wasn't aboard, wouldn't it? "Pay lots of money for my space ride [that I'm not going to actually go on myself]"

I don't know, does it look bad for Elon Musk to not go on SpaceX private flights? I would say it doesn't change much.

Musk was known to joke that the (pressurised) Cargo Dragon spacecraft had everything needed for a stowaway to visit the ISS. Thank goodness he didn't try it - probably a stunt too far even for him.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I don't know, does it look bad for Elon Musk to not go on SpaceX private flights? I would say it doesn't change much.

People generally dont expect Musk to go to the ISS on Crew Dragon - because he's not an astronaut. But if SpaceX start doing 'space tourism' aimed at general (if somewhat rich) consumers then it would be odd for Musk not to take a ride on that - dont you think? Similarly Branson would be expected to have a go on his space tourism thing once it opens up to the public.

There is no "if". SpaceX has planned missions and contracts for many more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration4

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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They've done 14 successful launches. It's probably considerably safer than mountain climbing etc. On the other hand, Blue Origin's competitor Virgin Galactic isn't automated and looks a lot more dangerous.

> considerably safer than mountain climbing I thought that the failure rate for manned missions was accepted to be around 1 crew loss in several hundred flights. That seems much worse than typical mountain climbing, with Everest and K2 being somewhat riskier than space flight on a per-attempt basis.

It's 1/270, but this won't be an orbital flight. The rocket climbs up to the Karman line then releases the capsule. There is no reentering which is one of the most dangerous phases of orbit flights.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but surely taxpayers subsidizing billionaires’ rocket testing and allowing the gains to be privatized is a net loss for society, no?

No. There's no guarantee that taxpayers money would be used for a better endeavor if it was used otherwise. And the very definition of better endeavor is pretty shaky in any case. So one can debate on whether optimal resource allocation is done by the government or private individuals, but it is not 'surely' better to have the government allocate the resources.

Why does the richest individual on the planet need a handout of government cash for a project he wants to pursue anyway?

Will there be any element of cheap subsidised access to space in return for the government's investment?

Or is it exactly what it seems to be - a no-strings handout?

As for better endeavours - perhaps you're underestimating the economic utility of a single payer health care system which wouldn't bankrupt 500,000 individuals a year. (For example.)

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I was a bit shocked how Jeff Bezos looked in the video [0] in which he invited his brother to go with him. He does not look healthy, even a bit bloated. Does anyone know if he is having health issues? [0] https://www.instagram.com/p/CP0MSOqnYEo/

Looks like he has put on some pandemic lockdown weight.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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Is that the new/modern definition of oligarch, or how oligarch is used in US? I dont see how Jeff or Elon are oligarchs in the sense of russian oligarchs.

IMO you have to maintain or exert some control over a nation in order to be an oligarch. So Jeff and Elon are out, but David Koch and Robert Mercer meet the definition for me. These guys have exerted huge control over the US over the last 30-40 years.

Jeff Bezos owns the 2nd largest newspaper in the country, and now a major movie studio. I would say he qualifies.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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I was a bit shocked how Jeff Bezos looked in the video [0] in which he invited his brother to go with him. He does not look healthy, even a bit bloated. Does anyone know if he is having health issues? [0] https://www.instagram.com/p/CP0MSOqnYEo/

There’s an interesting trend I’ve seen where a lot of folks who were previously super health conscious, put on weight when they are in a relationship they enjoy.

Anyone have a study or article of this phenomenon?

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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An Elon / Jeff space willy-waving contest about who gets to be Space Bro Alpha seems like a net win for humanity

American Oligarchs are certainly up to more interesting things than Russian ones at the moment!

I don’t know, the yachts that have their own yachts look kind of cool. Oh, wait, Bezos is building one for half a bil. Never mind.

Re: Jeff Bezos will fly on the first passenger spaceflight of Blue Origin in July

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IMO you have to maintain or exert some control over a nation in order to be an oligarch. So Jeff and Elon are out, but David Koch and Robert Mercer meet the definition for me. These guys have exerted huge control over the US over the last 30-40 years.

Jeff Bezos owns the 2nd largest newspaper in the country, and now a major movie studio. I would say he qualifies.

Johnny Depp would basically qualify under that definition.
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