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Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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Post by grecy »

ehnto wrote: post #68
grecy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan built an island for the Kansai airport. Construction started in 1987 and the airport opened in 1994. Japan have a host of "long term big engineering projects" they're always working on.

I flew in and out of there the first time I visited, it was so cool. Japan is an infrastructure nerds dream. It didn't feel like being on an island at all, since it's entirely developed. But once you hop on a train you shoot out across the ocean and it's quite spectacular. I recommend going up to the viewing tower if you have time before your flight, it's an inimitable view.

A couple of years after it was built I stayed high up in the hotel that is immediately on the mainland with a view directly along the bridge to the island.

10/10

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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Post by jamil7 »

jaza wrote: post #37
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #28

> A case against the development of Lynetteholm has been brought before the European Court of Justice by environmental groups. I’m always a little surprised that the most wild and natural parts of world (the flyover country) is populated by anti environmentalists (or rather, libertarians typically), and the most densely populated cities devoid of most green things tend to have clusters of environmentalists. Don’t the…

Most of those environmentalists, strong though their convictions may be, wouldn't give up almond milk lattes, organic fusion sushi, constant social media, fast reliable internet, and all the other trappings of cosmopolitan hipster life, at least not for more than a few days.

Same tired angle over and over huh? Environmentalists are city-dwelling hipster hypocrites. It’s been used by various politicians over the years.

Re: Denmark parliament approves giant artificial island off Copenhagen

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Post by flexie »

manexploitsman wrote: post #54

Wouldn't it be cheaper and better for the environment to buy some land off Germany or Sweden? Once the deal is sealed, they could start building the city the very next day.

There is plenty of space in Denmark for its existing population (and for millions more, for that sake). The issue is that there is not that much space in Copenhagen.

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Post by HPsquared »

perihelions wrote: post #3

This is some remarkably long-term planning: "If construction goes ahead as planned, the majority of the foundations for the island off Denmark's capital should be in place by 2035, with an aim to fully complete the project by 2070." I can't recall ever seeing the year 2070 or later in print, in the context of some definite project or plan. Are there other examples?

Cathedral projects often took decades.

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Post by ekianjo »

yread wrote: post #61
perihelions wrote: post #3

This is some remarkably long-term planning: "If construction goes ahead as planned, the majority of the foundations for the island off Denmark's capital should be in place by 2035, with an aim to fully complete the project by 2070." I can't recall ever seeing the year 2070 or later in print, in the context of some definite project or plan. Are there other examples?

Seems reasonable. Maasvlakte is a comparable project: an artificial island (20 km2 while this island is "only" 2.8km2) outside Rotterdam harbor and it was built over 25 years (1974-1997) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasvlakte (Dutch wiki has much more info: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maasvlakte ) Another comparable project is the new Strandeiland in Amsterdam https://www.amsterdam.nl/projecten/ijburg/deelproject…

Kobe in Japan has several artificial islands. all built by a Dutch company.

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

jltsiren wrote: post #13
Retric wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the retirement thing is a stretch. A 16 year old might see a retirement age of 2070 using a retirement age of 65.

Someone born in the late 1990s might expect to retire around 2070. Given the population structure in wealthy countries, early retirement at 65 is no longer feasible for most people in the younger generations.

People from my mother's generation often started working when they were just 16. So when I see someone talking about them retiring at 65 it's important to keep that in mind.

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Post by tiagod »

jltsiren wrote: post #13
Retric wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the retirement thing is a stretch. A 16 year old might see a retirement age of 2070 using a retirement age of 65.

Someone born in the late 1990s might expect to retire around 2070. Given the population structure in wealthy countries, early retirement at 65 is no longer feasible for most people in the younger generations.

Calling 65 years old early retirement is insulting...
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