Don't understand why this is upvoted. The math used to get to 10+ years assumes competitors address each element of the lead one-by-one: > Custom silicon / technology / sensors (a four to five-year lead over the competition, and that is being generous to the competition) > Design-led product development processes that emphasizes the user experience (adds three years to Apple’s lead) > A broader ecosystem build-out in…
Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables
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Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables
#72I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…
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#73Pebble IMO was and still is the best wearable watch. I don’t think anything worked better largely due to the long battery life and generally the e-ink design. Had they added different wrist bands with smart tech in it, it would have gone even further. I don’t really think apple has a decade lead, what they do have is minimal innovation they’re competing with. AND more importantly, a brand and ecosystem. That being sa…
I had several pebbles (2 b/w and the colored one) and now have an apple watch. You don’t know what you’re talking about, the tech in the apple watch is years ahead. There’s much to criticize about the apple watch but it does the important things just so much better than the competition. I also never understood the focus on battery life. I put my watch on the charger whenever I go to sleep. If I forget it either still…
Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables
#74Pebble IMO was and still is the best wearable watch. I don’t think anything worked better largely due to the long battery life and generally the e-ink design. Had they added different wrist bands with smart tech in it, it would have gone even further. I don’t really think apple has a decade lead, what they do have is minimal innovation they’re competing with. AND more importantly, a brand and ecosystem. That being sa…
(I considered putting the Pebble into airplane mode, but it seems to be less reliable reconnecting to the phone if I do this.)
What do Pebble-lovers get if they don't want an Apple Watch? I was hopeful about the Fossil hybrid smartwatches, but the UI just wasn't there (two clicks to see more of a message?). Garmin is on my list, but they have so many models I can't tell which ones are best, or where they are in their upgrade cycles.
Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables
#75I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…
Agree on all counts. It's very hard to put time horizons on anything. But I started wearing a Series 3 watch (3 generations old now) when I started a project my client in 2019 insisted I wear it as I was writing code that utilized HealthKit data from the Apple Watch. Check my past posts I'm NOT an Apple fan boi at all. But compared to the competition, there's nothing coming close to the integration and the UX out the…
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed on the haptics, a literal nightmare device with them enabled. But without I find it keeps me less tethered to the phone, and able to check on calls and messages during a conversation without breaking the flow
Turn off all the notifications. It’s way, way better without them.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
More numbers in a completely different tech stack is meaningless. How does a watch give you any learnings on an AR headset?
I'm not sure what argument you are trying to make. That in some putative future where AR headsets become a meaningful product category for wearable Apple might not be in a strong position? True but not really germane.
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#78I want a watch that stands alone.
Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables
#79Pebble IMO was and still is the best wearable watch. I don’t think anything worked better largely due to the long battery life and generally the e-ink design. Had they added different wrist bands with smart tech in it, it would have gone even further. I don’t really think apple has a decade lead, what they do have is minimal innovation they’re competing with. AND more importantly, a brand and ecosystem. That being sa…
I think we're confusing 1) tech 2) product 3) marketing/positioning and 4) brand.
All of that together, Apple has a very powerful entrenched lead.
They can launch almost anything and own the category, the are firing on all pieces.
Google doesn't have either the supply chain, distribution or hardware-product discipline.
And who else is going take on Apple's machine?
So from a tech perspective, it's doubtful they are '10 years ahead' but from an operational perspective, it sure feels that way.
Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables
#80I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…
Combined with their market position, huge margins, decent but good looking software and UX, it's incredibly hard to catch up to them.
Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables because there is no competition at their luxury price point in a luxury device ecosystem like the iPhone. To catch up, first you'd have to defeat the iPhone, meanwhile develop and then unleash a wearable all of your customers also want, and somehow make money doing so. It's a tall task.