when can we stop renaming 'master'? it's a pointless update.
Magit 3.0
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Re: Magit 3.0
#72I never fail to see so many high things about Magit and I believe they are rightly placed. I am a non Emac user and wonder why no one tries to bring something similar client for non Emac population.
It really is fantastic... and for the non-Emacs folks like myself you can run it in Spacemacs w/ VIM bindings (aka evil mode).
Re: Magit 3.0
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Magit is not terribly intuitive. It looks a bit like a menu-based GUI, so you'd expect to navigate around and use a standard set of keys, but most of it is actually powered by special key combinations. Now, in some circumstances, that works fine, but honestly the interface could be simplified a bit and probably made faster to use. And less prone to the "oh shit, I thought I was typing something but now I actually hit…
There's definitely some aspects of it which I struggle with. Like cherry picking a commit always feels somewhat painful, and I can never remember offhand the exact menus and keys to press to do it. But for day to day development, it's fast and great. I love having the separation between the push branch and merge branches for example, which feels very natural in a PR workflow. And the forge integration is brilliant.
Cherry-picking is amazing with magit. I use spacemacs so my magit has evil style keybindings.
I just open up a log view to the branch i'm cherry-picking from, move the cursor to the commit I want to pick, then if I don't remember what the key is I just press ? and it shows me all the commands, then I press A for cherry-picking, and it immediately populates it with the commit that my cursor is on in the log view. Easy-peasy.
Re: Magit 3.0
#74Emacs is too laggy for me as my main editor. But Magit is so good that I start emacs up just to use it as my Git interface if I can't get by just with the CLI. Sadly there is no Vim plugin that is competitive. There is vimagit [1], but it's not on par. [1] https://github.com/jreybert/vimagit
Have you tried Spacemacs w/ VIM bindings (evil mode)?
Re: Magit 3.0
#75when can we stop renaming 'master'? it's a pointless update.
I'm not sure you understood this change?
This Magit update is not renaming branches or telling you what branch name to use. Quite the opposite. It's a switch from assuming everyone uses only one of the many conventions out there, to having out-of-the-box support for all the major ones.
Re: Magit 3.0
#76How does the interface compare to SourceTree?
Magit is like using the terminal client but easier. You have to press fewer keys to do things, and it makes the various operations discoverable through menus. It's really the best way to interact with git IMO. However, if you don't use Emacs already it's a little much to setup Emacs just to use Magit.
SourceTree is terrible IMO. I've had to help so many coworkers (who don't want to learn proper terminal git) unfuck their local repos after SourceTree did god knows what to it. Other git GUIs like Fork or Git Tower never caused these same issues in my experience. If you are currently using SourceTree I would recommend trying this instead: https://git-fork.com/
Re: Magit 3.0
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I upvoted you but... How comes Emacs is laggy for you? I'm running a beefy Emacs setup and it is really responsive. If anything Emacs in the nineties was "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping" but... We're in 2021 now and now it's still 8 MB, so it's a rounding error (I'm only exaggerating a bit). It's one my lightest app: starting Emacs, eval'ing some elisp, and exiting takes... 81 ms. Eighty-one milliseconds. To…
Perhaps this is about MacOS vs Linux. I'm also suffering from slow emacs on mac, and no combination of flags seems to help. Use case: open a yaml file with syntax highlightning, scroll it with the mouse. The latency should be as low as possible.
Emacs on MacOS was also laggy for me before I started using the native comp feature. It takes a while to compile but it's seriously one of the best QoL changes I've had in years.
Re: Magit 3.0
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
I upvoted you but... How comes Emacs is laggy for you? I'm running a beefy Emacs setup and it is really responsive. If anything Emacs in the nineties was "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping" but... We're in 2021 now and now it's still 8 MB, so it's a rounding error (I'm only exaggerating a bit). It's one my lightest app: starting Emacs, eval'ing some elisp, and exiting takes... 81 ms. Eighty-one milliseconds. To…
I know that these "works for me" discussion are often not fruitful. But, I'll ask this: have you done a several hour session of typing/programming into a JetBrains IDE? I'm claiming that on my work Macbook Pro, even just typing plain text into a file and scrolling lines in IDEA is smoother and more responsive than doing the same in Emacs. I use the Vim plugin for IDEA and evil mode in Emacs. Even things like holding…
It's really hard to tell. The configurability of emacs is both a blessing and a curse. Since you can customize basically anything, there are all sorts of opportunities for funky config or a weird extension to slow things down.
I know, for example, that a lot of people who have tried both report that Doom Emacs is much faster than Spacemacs. That implies to me that it's not evil mode. For my part (fairly vanilla Doom setup), I find holding j/k to scroll in Doom is snappier than IntelliJ, on the same computer.
But then, I've also heard people complain that it's just the opposite on Windows, where Doom emacs is apparently just really laggy.
That said, I agree that the "works for me" discussions aren't very fruitful, and I'm definitely not here to tell you which editor to use. More observing that, what with how... emacsy... emacs is, you're definitely not alone. It's entirely possible that the problem you had is both something specific to how you had things set up, and also absolutely not at all your fault.
Re: Magit 3.0
#79Magit must be one of the best software tools ever written.
I sorely missed it when I had to use IntelliJ for a few projects, so I wrote a TUI tool like Magit that can be used inside the console window of most IDEs like IntelliJ etc.
Still haven't gotten around to releasing it properly, but it's easy to setup and works well enough to be a working MVP.
Re: Magit 3.0
#80Emacs is too laggy for me as my main editor. But Magit is so good that I start emacs up just to use it as my Git interface if I can't get by just with the CLI. Sadly there is no Vim plugin that is competitive. There is vimagit [1], but it's not on par. [1] https://github.com/jreybert/vimagit
I upvoted you but... How comes Emacs is laggy for you? I'm running a beefy Emacs setup and it is really responsive. If anything Emacs in the nineties was "Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping" but... We're in 2021 now and now it's still 8 MB, so it's a rounding error (I'm only exaggerating a bit). It's one my lightest app: starting Emacs, eval'ing some elisp, and exiting takes... 81 ms. Eighty-one milliseconds. To…
I think it's a Mac and an HDPI thing. I had to stop using emacs because it was too slow on my work MacBook Pro connected to a 4K screen. Scrolling was painful and only marginally better with nativecomp.