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Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by takeda »

vidarh wrote: post #70
takeda wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's AROS[1]. When trying to remember its name I also found Apollo OS[2]. [1] https://amigang.com/software-aros/ [2] http://www.apollo-computer.com/apollOS.html Edit: Looks, like Apollo OS is a fork of AROS that is optimized to run on the original Amiga hardware.

ApolloOS is optimized to run on "680x0" hardware, including the FPGA based Vampire accelerators (and presumably the standalone Amiga replacement). So while it will run on original Amiga hardware, it also has optimisations that are Vampire specific (extra instructions etc.)

I see, thanks for the explanation.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by rasz »

rbanffy wrote: post #57

The most extraordinary thing here is not only it’s being done, but it’s being done in a proprietary way. The surface of the AmigaOS is tiny in comparison with any modern system. It’s surprising nobody took a free RTOS and built an Amiga API on top of it, enough to fool Amiga software into being compiled for modern hardware and run directly on real Amigas.

You might have an unduly notion of the amount of "being done". The most "modern" up to date AmigaOS will take several seconds every time you open a drawer (directory) loading icons one by one, even on the fastest possible Amiga (Vampire or emulated one) using modern SSD. Its all dressing a pig for the hardcore fanbase using their Amigas to run SysInfo once a year after buying another $xxx accelerator card and reminiscing about the good old times when they were 14y old kid.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by rasz »

snvzz wrote: post #45
tibbydudeza wrote: post #3

How many 68K Amiga's still working exist today ???. I don't get it.

Most that exist are still working. They were well-built, and the most sold models (A500, A600, A1200) do not have the barrel batteries that leak and destroy PCBs. A500+, A2000/3000/4000 have these batteries, but they weren't anywhere as popular as the other models. If you own any of these, ensure you've removed the barrel battery (cutting it out with pliers is good enough, and the Amiga will still work). I personally…

Most ended up with ram expansions including RTC with battery, not to mention leaked capacitor juice dissolved chip pins and pcb vias.

They were build just a tad better than contemporary Atari ST from the point of signal integrity, but Commodore manufacturing plant was a shit show. Multiple models shipped with capacitors mounted in reverse polarity (1200, 4000, CD32).

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by morsch »

kstrauser wrote: post #32

Vaguely related: approximately 20 years ago I hosted "The Amiga Alternative Audio Page". Every time I migrate my blog to a new platform -- which is often because I like to tinker with it -- I figure this is the time I'll finally kill that page forever. And then my web logs fill with 404s and I bring it back from the dead because I don't have the heart to kill old Amiga software. So, https://honeypot.net/post/the-amig…

Upload it to the Internet archive, maybe? They already have a lot of Amiga software, so it won't feel lonely.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by vidarh »

icedchai wrote: post #40
dumbfounder wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shadow of the Beast was one of the most impossibly hard games to play of all time. But that sounds and music.

The parallax scrolling was incredible for 1989. Nothing was quite like it.

And the intros. I spent more than me watching the intro sequences and listening to the music than playing the game. Got a bunch of remixes of it.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by renaudg »

kmeisthax wrote: post #64
kstrauser wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a summary of the summary? Also, is there any financial value left in that IP? From an outside perspective it looks like people fighting over table scraps.

tl;dr: The Amiga was created by a company Commodore bought, then Commodore ran itself into the ground, ESCOM bought up the corpse, then ran themselves into the ground, Gateway bought up ESCOM and sold/spun off the Amiga assets into Amiga Inc, Amiga Inc licensed their OS to Hyperion. Meanwhile Cloanto has been working on AmigaOS since 1993 and Amiga Inc also licensed their OS to Cloanto. Hyperion spends more of it's t…

> Hyperion spends more of it's time shipping litigation rather than software.

That's a weird comment to make on the day Hyperion ships a second significant update to AmigaOS in 3 years, while Cloanto has been sitting on its IP to sell a glorified, Windows-only UAE bundle with no improvements whatsoever.

I don't have an opinion on the legal fight, but as user I can see who's actually moving things forward, and that's where I'm putting my money.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by renaudg »

jl6 wrote: post #27
tibbydudeza wrote: post #3

How many 68K Amiga's still working exist today ???. I don't get it.

I booted up my A1200 in 2008 to see if it still worked after ten years of disuse - it did. Then a month ago in 2021 I booted it up again to see if it still worked after a further 13 years of disuse - and it did again. Played Zool both times!

If you want to make sure it boots up next time though, consider having it recapped : on A600/A1200/CD32 it's a matter of when, not if, low quality capacitors will leak and damage the board.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by renaudg »

snvzz wrote: post #45
tibbydudeza wrote: post #3

How many 68K Amiga's still working exist today ???. I don't get it.

Most that exist are still working. They were well-built, and the most sold models (A500, A600, A1200) do not have the barrel batteries that leak and destroy PCBs. A500+, A2000/3000/4000 have these batteries, but they weren't anywhere as popular as the other models. If you own any of these, ensure you've removed the barrel battery (cutting it out with pliers is good enough, and the Amiga will still work). I personally…

And for the A600/A1200/CD32, make sure you have them recapped sooner rather than later. Old leaking capacitors can and do damage PCBs.

Re: AmigaOS 3.2

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Post by jboy55 »

dumbfounder wrote: post #39
icedchai wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be surprised if it's profitable. Maybe a labor of love. I've been an Amiga fan since the late 80's. It was my favorite machine. Nothing quite has had the magic of booting up games like Shadow of the Beast or Blood Money. The Amiga was truly a quantum leap.

Shadow of the Beast was one of the most impossibly hard games to play of all time. But that sounds and music.

If you ever played that series, you know this music, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDO6__ya6B0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKHecxVDEts . I'm surprised they were only 37 seconds long, it often felt like it was minutes (maybe that was just the disk crunching loading the music).
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