Is the premise here that beyond beef et al. are trying to trick customers into thinking they are buying regular beef? A moment's thought reveals that to be utterly absurd. Their business model is entirely dependent on people buying their product specifically because it is plant-based. Seems like old-fashioned protection of a favored industry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyngz I let google autocomplete "Beyond" and found "Beyond Bread." Without looking, and without previous brand recognition, tell me what "beyond" bread means.
Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
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Re: Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
#72I agree with this. Make up your own new word for the new product. Tufu isn't "bean cheese". People don't need "to be fooled" in order to get them to try highly processed plant products. Truth in advertising and all that. If you're selling processed plants or insects, great, market it and label it as such. If it's yummy, people will lap it up.
This is stupid. Meat is not solely used to describe the output of slaughter. I'll even help you out: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/meat We've used "meat" to describe lots of things that we eat for a very long time. This is purely bending the knee to a lobby and hyper regulation of enterprise. It makes sense since that's a core value of republican... wait a second! What's happening? What about free enterprise and…
Reminds me of this bit from an underrated sitcom I binged a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN4V_tgXuNY
I'm surprised the lawmakers didn't try to regulate "tuna steaks" out of existence.
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The literal meaning of tofu is "bean curd".
Not sure how curd is called in Chinese, but I think the literal meaning is closer to "rotten beans". https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%85%90 - to rot; to decay; to spoil
The "fu" in doufu taken by itself does indeed mean rotten. But characters on their own can have very different meanings compared to when used in combination in words. There isn't necessarily a connection, just like in English the word "rotten" doesn't have anything to do with the number 10 that's contained in it.
Tofu isn't fermented but made by boiling soy milk and adding a coagulating agent. I was curious and looked it up and that process was described the same way already in Ming Dynasty, so the "rotten" character might just be random and not have any such meaning. It's very common in Chinese that new concepts are expressed with existing characters, because you can't go around making up a new character for everything, no one could ever remember that many characters (bad enough as it is). Often it's just about the sound. For example the characters in the word for cheese (起司) mean "rise" and "manage" when taken on their own. It would be gibberish to read it that way, but every Chinese person knows combined they mean cheese.
Re: Texas lawmakers approve bill banning 'meat' & 'beef' on plant-based food labels
#75It's going to be a fun game of whackamole as Beyond Meat starts producing "steak", "fillets", "bacon", etc and other things not explicitly listed in that bill.
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Nothing wrong with calling it plant protein. Mayonnaise is just a dressing like thousand island, Russian, ranch and hundreds of others who acquired their own names. Yogurt I'm mildly ok with since basically it just means coagulated milk and also includes the necessary bacteria.
I find this discussion fascinating. We are both consumers discussing consumer rights. I - a consumer - want to be able to buy a product I recognize by name, that is also made from specific ingredients that I choose, e.g. almond milk. I don’t need your protection from being “fooled”. You - a consumer - don’t own the ingredients that must be contained in a specific product.
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#77The bill is https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/html/HB00316I... It's going to be a fun game of whackamole as Beyond Meat starts producing "steak", "fillets", "bacon", etc and other things not explicitly listed in that bill.
OLIVE OIL??? VEGETABLE OIL?? HOW THE HELL CAN THEY CALL IT OIL WHEN IT'S NOT FROM THE FAKE DINO BONUS JESUS PLANTED IN THE DIRT THAT WE USE TO MAKE THE CARS GO?!?!?!
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This is stupid. Meat is not solely used to describe the output of slaughter. I'll even help you out: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/meat We've used "meat" to describe lots of things that we eat for a very long time. This is purely bending the knee to a lobby and hyper regulation of enterprise. It makes sense since that's a core value of republican... wait a second! What's happening? What about free enterprise and…
> Meat is not solely the used to describe the output of slaughter. Reminds me of this bit from an underrated sitcom I binged a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN4V_tgXuNY I'm surprised the lawmakers didn't try to regulate "tuna steaks" out of existence.
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What a terrible loss for me as a person to be able to go to the store and buy a "milk" that doesn't come from a cow but that I can put on breakfast cereal and drink with my coffee. Meanwhile I don't see Texas aggressively defending the truth that a tomato is really a fruit and shouldn't be placed with other vegetables in the store.
Here the vegetables and fruits are pretty mixed in stores. Are they clearly separated and sectioned in other places of world?
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True, but if the companies already have good brand recognition, then a label change shouldn't affect their current sales. I'm sure the marketing teams will come up with something to assist with new customers. Society as a whole seems to be progressing towards a lower meat intake diet, so I would think it's likely that new and existing brands of meat alternatives will continue to do well.
> if the companies already have good brand recognition, then a label change shouldn't affect their current sales. People recognize a brand by the label. A label change is precisely the kind of thing that would negatively impact brand recognition. > I'm sure the marketing teams will come up with something to assist with new customers. That costs money. Hence the unfair burden.