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Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…

I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.

It's common in some industries. Publishing is a frequent offender on this front.

Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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I actually feel bad for Netflix here. They have nothing at all to do with this (as the article rightly points out) but the photographer is blaming them anyway, and I'm sure all of their friends are too.

Netflix is in a good position to tell its production companies "You pay for the people who do work for you, or we don't pay you."

There are unions like SAG and SMA precisely because this kind of stuff happened all the time in Hollywood (along with a ton of other abuses). It happened because the workers banded together to say, "No, you won't get to work with any of us if you don't treat all of us fairly". If Netflix doesn't want to find itself in the same situation, it's precisely where they need to address their complaints.

Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right but abusive and predatory behaviour is STILL abusive and predatory in an oversupply situation.

The promotional aspects could be worth much more than whatever money they'd earn.

How are they worth anything when this sets the standard that the work is worth $0? If anything this moves the needle down on what you can earn later.

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post #37

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You must be a shitty photographer.

So what? Let the market decide. Or would you rather dictate what consenting adults can agree to because you are so much wiser?

The parent's comment was uncalled for, but many regulations are made specifically to "dictate what consenting adults can agree to". That's why minimal wages exist after all.

The problem is that if the task doesn't require a highly skilled workforce you'll always find somebody desperate enough to undercut the competition. Then it's just a race to the bottom.

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The promotional aspects could be worth much more than whatever money they'd earn.

If Netflix won't pay you, who the fuck will? Whats the value of 'promotion' at that point?

> If Netflix won't pay you, who the fuck will?

Couples who want that photographer they saw on TV.

Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

#77
post #35

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Please expand on why you think so. Edit: Any why this is the case, in this situation. Please explain? (I'm not from the US - I may be missing something.)

Because exploiting people is wrong.

Can you elaborate how this is exploiting?

I am a SWE engineer with photography as a hobby.

If a tv show contacted me to do a wedding shoot, I'd be excited for the coverage and I wouldn't feel exploited since doing shoots is fun for me.

I could see how there are parallels to the "background actor" industry where, by law, you have to pay all of the talent on screen, even if its a nominal amount and the actor would of worked for free.

But that doesn't the case here?

Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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post #21

The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…

I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.

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Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

#79
post #7

I actually feel bad for Netflix here. They have nothing at all to do with this (as the article rightly points out) but the photographer is blaming them anyway, and I'm sure all of their friends are too.

If a Netflix subcontractor didn’t pay their actors, writers, etc, they would catch a well deserved deluge of criticism. Of course it wouldn’t happen because those workers are organized to prevent these abuses.

They aren't really subcontractors of Netflix. They're a separate company selling a product to Netflix (a complete TV show).

If Netflix buys a laptop from Apple and Apple does something wrong, you don't blame Netflix for it, you blame Apple.

Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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post #21

The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…

I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.

I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship.

Its a "great" way for employers to screen out less privileged folks and keep the job for someone from a "proper" family. Trust fund babies have no problem doing an unpaid internship.

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