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Re: How to send $ETH in 19 lines of Python

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"much greater accountability" not equal "perfect new world" my response to you was completely devoid of ideology and you keep trying to shoehorn snarky versions of enthusiast ideology into it any way regardless of if you were actually asking a question or if you had already made an answer to it, the answer to that question is no, they don't haunt you forever and if the observable nature of blockchain transactions bot…

"We don't trust each other so we need immutable ledgers" sounds like "we need more horsepower so we need stronger horses!" Works in theory... Edit: @vmception: If something leads everyone and their grandmothers to "invest" then it deserves scrutiny. And there is nothing to respond to. I mean "yes sir, that's right, you have knowledge of financial instruments and speculation, very good, now I'd like to ask why you're…

In response to your edit

"I'd like to ask why you're OK with people mistaking this as a serious investment instead of the quant-level speculation you are referring to"

I literally do not care how people use their money but if you actually read between the lines, I have been saying that ETH is not something you should hoard. You only need as much ETH as necessary to write to compute nodes based on the computational expensiveness of the operation. You can do fairly arbitrary executions as long as you are willing to pay for it. I don't personally care what those executions are. But of the subset of those executions, the repo market and liquidity pool providing has stood out to me. And as I've said two or three times now, if you want to speculate on other people doing those "quant-level speculations" because now you don't need to be a top investment bank anymore and instead can just watch a few youtube videos to borrow and repay a few hundred million dollars for a few seconds, then go ahead an hoard ETH.

My actual opinions on unsophisticated people investing has nothing to do with Ethereum specifically. I am opposed to any barrier on investing when there are no barriers on gambling. Negative expected values games are available to all, but for something with positive expected value we want to coddle "grandmothers"? Miss me with that nonsense.

You act like you are here to provide scrutiny but were predictably never here to discuss any use case. You act like you were diplomatically asking for use case, and then never discuss any one of them only to move the goal post until revealing what everyone could tell you were trying to get at. Thats why I asked you, are you in the market for anything? Its useful to me to be able to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars for 5 seconds to earn a few basis points on an arbitrage I identified, without asking anybody. You can pretend that a MySQL database is better for that, but nobody is offering that service and it is fairly impossible to because of the financial legal barriers for a central party to offer a service that are exclusive to a central party, primarily around custody of funds, fiduciary duties, money service licenses, broker dealer licenses, settlement and inefficient state currency controls. The current evolution of the onchain services do not have custody to begin with, which are legal explicitly written exemptions to all of those laws.

Re: How to send $ETH in 19 lines of Python

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Is there a good replacement for hackernews? The crypto-skepticism that derails every single thread even tangentially related to crypto currency has totally undermined my desire to participate in this community. It appears the "hackers" have moved on.

Yes, it's called lobste.rs. Yet they started suffering from the same 'too sensitive SF crowd lenses', where they see the world with their very narrow view and anything that's not in their narrow space - will be of course downvoted. I kinda miss old groups where you would be able to read "not so popular" comments, without damaging your eyes due to them being greyed out, or without a need to select it to see the text.…

If you click on the timestamp of a downvoted comment, it should go to a page where the text is fully readable. Yes it's an extra hop, but that's a small price to pay for an immune system.

Re: How to send $ETH in 19 lines of Python

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How do they know what they need ETH for if they don't know what it's actually useful for? I'd be curious what a few of your top "you need ETH for this" cases are.

So are you fishing for ideas now? I'm not going to "prove myself" here so that you can give me the blessing to ask a valid question. In sibling comment I mentioned DAO, but those are a bit out of reach for more than just the technology are far to immature. Everything else sounds like the next new future fallacy [1]. But no, your "libertarian" ideals won't flourish when you sprinkle in a little crypto and run your ser…

Well, aren't you a sensitive one? I wasn't even arguing with you. GP was being handwavy so I wanted them to put up. Mostly so I could have a steelman to dunk on.

Re: How to send $ETH in 19 lines of Python

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That’s exactly the problem for me: I’m the kind of person who sees money as “a token to be traded for goods and / or services”, and why would any normal person (ie, not counting crypto investment nerds) want to trade their eth if the most profitable thing to do is to hoard it?

Why do you buy things when you could only ever save?

With stable currencies, if I buy $10 of stuff today, then I have $10 of stuff, and at the end of the week my bank account will be $10 (+/-0.01%) lower than where it would have been had I saved the money. I don’t regret this purchase.

With inflation-stage cryptocurrencies (Which I’m assuming ETH is, given that the article says "At the time of writing, ETH is at an all-time-high”), if I buy $10 of stuff today, then I have $10 of stuff, and at the end of the week my bank account has missed out on $300 of inflation. I should’ve saved my memecoins and used some other currency instead.

Re: How to send $ETH in 19 lines of Python

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> The government needs to be in control of the money supply. Not interested in bureaucrats determining my purchasing power, sorry

So rather than systems with oversight, faces, and names attached to them, you would prefer an entirely programmatic system where all transactions are final and irreversible which is not beholden to any intervention? There’s an old adage about how all programmers hate technology or something like that and I worry that we are flying too close to the sun here with the crypto hubris.

What good is a system, if it only benefits a few? And levers are used at the wrong time, benefits only a few people?
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