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Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by colpabar »

mleonhard wrote: post #63
yeahnah22 wrote: post #58

It’s become a trope that the news written about topics we know is woeful and unreliable, yet we trust the news written about anything else. Now I feel the same about HN. I know a decent amount about this topic - and the comments on this article are a dumpster fire so far. Hot take after hot take from people who didn’t understand the article, but act as if they did. Is the rest of HN like this, too?

The articles on software engineering are often high quality. The HN comments on such articles are usually better than the articles. I check https://news.ycombinator.com/classic rather than the front page. I have noticed that, in the last 6 months or so, more low-quality comments get voted to the first page on HN posts than before. It feels like a new Eternal September. I spend more of my downvotes on distracting redd…

What's the difference between the front page and the classic view? I didn't know about this.

>I spend more of my downvotes on distracting reddit-style comments than on incorrect posts. Is my change in downvoting behavior contributing to the decline?

I don't think so. I can't downvote yet, but that's how I imagine I'll use the feature too. It warms my heart seeing most "reddit-style" (I'd argue some are twitter-style too) comments so heavily downvoted, as they are usually the exact opposite of thoughtful. It's nice to know, or at least feel like, there is a silent majority of users here that can stick to the rules even when a thread gets super divisive.

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

yeahnah22 wrote: post #58

It’s become a trope that the news written about topics we know is woeful and unreliable, yet we trust the news written about anything else. Now I feel the same about HN. I know a decent amount about this topic - and the comments on this article are a dumpster fire so far. Hot take after hot take from people who didn’t understand the article, but act as if they did. Is the rest of HN like this, too?

Yes. HN is no different from any other social media

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by intergalplan »

yeahnah22 wrote: post #58

It’s become a trope that the news written about topics we know is woeful and unreliable, yet we trust the news written about anything else. Now I feel the same about HN. I know a decent amount about this topic - and the comments on this article are a dumpster fire so far. Hot take after hot take from people who didn’t understand the article, but act as if they did. Is the rest of HN like this, too?

You might enjoy n-gate.com's take on HN.

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by intergalplan »

mcbishop wrote: post #3

> One of the greatest gifts we have for each other, for our children and spouses, for our teammates, is the positive feedback loop we can put someone into purely by believing in them, by seeing their genius and their dysfunction clearly and then helping them construct conditions for the former to flourish. Beautiful.

This is pretty much what the show Ted Lasso is all about. I think it's the key reason people find it so wholesome and charming.

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by n4r9 »

yeahnah22 wrote: post #61
iandanforth wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"he knew the Big Five was solid as science" His discussion is neither critical nor credible.

He’s assuming some knowledge and experience on the part of the reader; that’s how it appears to me. Upon reflection it seems like he went overly broad with the scope of this article. If you’ve already interacted with things like the Enneagram test, you’ll already have the context to deal with his comments. I learned a ton from this post, perhaps it’s because I’ve had a lot of experience interacting with all the probl…

For other people who are interested as myself, I looked up "Enneagram test" on Wikipedia. The intro concludes with:

> There has been limited formal psychometric analysis of the Enneagram and the peer-reviewed research that has been done has not been widely accepted within the relevant academic communities.[5] Though the Enneagram integrates concepts generally accepted in a theory of personality,[6] it has been dismissed as pseudoscience by some personality assessment experts and called "pseudoscientific at best".[7]

The references are:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EQFPCQAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y...

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.ajp-rj.20...

https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/enneagram-personality-test...

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by h2odragon »

callesgg wrote: post #18

Yet another person trying to teach what can’t be taught through verbal lessons. Or maybe it can and I have just never been able to find anyone that is able to. Basically you understand other people with reference to your understanding of yourself, to become better at understanding other people you need to change the way you understand yourself. Someone else will not be able to change your understanding of yourself. Y…

"How do we become better at understanding others" is an eternal question. The answer that works for you wont work for others, and vice versa likewise, as well.

I can speak to most mammals and many reptiles, but that "body language" sense interferes severely with understanding people. They're almost always unaware of and fighting those layers of themselves, and my guesses as to the mental states causing that are no better than random. Their inner demons and happy ponies are totally different from the ones leading me astray.

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by n4r9 »

comfyinnernet wrote: post #48

I read the description of a "self-authoring" mind. Can someone ELI5 how it differs from the description of a "psychopath"?

Just read the description as well. "Self-authoring" seems to mean simply having an agenda that informs your behaviour. This could be interpreted as manipulative, but not psychopathic. Psychopathy requires a cluster of other traits such as deficient emotional responses and lack of empathy or control.

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by danuker »

StavrosK wrote: post #15
danuker wrote: post #10

> I’m looking for the felt sense of a “hungry mind” based on the way their questions flow. That’s very hard to fake. As a candidate, just imagine you own the company. The questions will flow naturally once you think about what those clowns are doing with your money.

What happens if the hungry mind is too hungry for your menial CRUD job, and you were actually better off with the unhungry mind that is content to do its job and go home at the end of the day?

To me, the CRUD menial job is what pays my bills.

It may be boring at times, but "the obstacle is the way", given that the customers pay for it.

But sometimes I get to automate some of the CRUD, which is fun.

Re: What's going on here, with this human?

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Post by danuker »

amelius wrote: post #26
danuker wrote: post #10

> I’m looking for the felt sense of a “hungry mind” based on the way their questions flow. That’s very hard to fake. As a candidate, just imagine you own the company. The questions will flow naturally once you think about what those clowns are doing with your money.

You might discover that being an employee is a bad deal anyway, and become a freelancer instead or start your own company.

You might still find it useful to imagine you own your clients' company, then.
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