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Post by khazhoux »

I only wish it weren't named Yaya, as I hate promoting the idea that old women are the pinnacle of technological ineptness. I know that wasn't the intent, but still. It's unfortunately a common expression to say "This product is so easy, even your grandmother can use it!" As if the only group more incompetent than old people, is old women (or, if you prefer, the only group more incompetent than women are old women).

I really think it's time to consciously move away from this outdated meme.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by fighterpilot »

nanna wrote: post #26
nanna wrote: post #16

This is cute but bearing in mind most of today's grandparents (at least in the West) have had decades of using computers professionally and at least a good few years using tablets and smartphones, I really think the pitch should be directed elsewhere. I especially don't think they would appreciate a 'telegram' feature! Also, I know it's not meant literally, but its genderisation as 'granny' is a really problematic cl…

Look, let me put this another way, since I'm being downvoted. I think my 70 year old mum, who is a grandma, would find it patronising and sexist to have a device pitched to her as an easier to use version of the iPad she is a bloody master of in every way. She's far more adapt than my dad, bless him, but even he can use WhatsApp and the like fine after being shown.

The device isn't being pitched to old people who know how to use an iPad. It's being pitched to old people who don't. So your mum has nothing to worry about.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by chobytes »

Thorentis wrote: post #68

This is brilliant. A single device that does one thing, and does it (hopefully) really well. It is a much needed antidote to the "all in one" apps we are seeing more and more of. Touchscreens really embody the "all in one" design pattern, and lend themselves to those types of apps. That's after all what they're intended for: interchangeable interfaces. Nice to see a modern service being used with an analog interface.

Bothers me to no end how many once simple devices have gone this way. I feel like I would be willing to pay more for simpler appliances at this point.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by reaperducer »

aimor wrote: post #57

This is really neat. It has me thinking about my own grandma who loves getting pictures on her phone, but is that the best interface for her? What if I could send pictures and they'd automatically print out, I think she'd like that even more. I think it's funny because that's a pretty easy thing to set up, but I never considered it until now.

What if I could send pictures and they'd automatically print out

I did that for my mother with a surplus Powerbook and an inkjet printer. I'd just VNC in and print out the picture.

Worked great for a while. Then one day she dumped a cup of coffee into the keyboard. "Oh, it's no big deal. I'm sure you do it all the time," she said. End of pictures.

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Post by bozzcl »

Sometimes, the fact that my parents and grandmother are so good with technology disappoints me because I have fewer chances of building cool stuff like this.

Re: Yayagram

#76

Post by bozzcl »

khazhoux wrote: post #71

I only wish it weren't named Yaya, as I hate promoting the idea that old women are the pinnacle of technological ineptness. I know that wasn't the intent, but still. It's unfortunately a common expression to say "This product is so easy, even your grandmother can use it!" As if the only group more incompetent than old people, is old women (or, if you prefer, the only group more incompetent than women are old women).…

If you know that wasn't the intent, why make this complaint at all?

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Post by frereubu »

khazhoux wrote: post #71

I only wish it weren't named Yaya, as I hate promoting the idea that old women are the pinnacle of technological ineptness. I know that wasn't the intent, but still. It's unfortunately a common expression to say "This product is so easy, even your grandmother can use it!" As if the only group more incompetent than old people, is old women (or, if you prefer, the only group more incompetent than women are old women).…

I get what you're saying, but it's a one-off thing that the guy built especially for his Yaya.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by lotsofpulp »

anxrn wrote: post #64
zackbloom wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say the single biggest issue right now is the cost of an LTE modem and service. Cursory research shows a fully integrated modem is on the order of $44 at small quantities. Obviously cell phone manufactures get that number way down but they also manufacture at very high quantities. It looks like service is on the order of $0.50 per month per device, plus $0.33 per MB. That's not prohibitive, but it would mean…

Is LTE necessary? It seems that 3G or even 2G might suffice, and might be cheaper?

I would assume those networks will be shut down sooner rather than later in most places. I think 2G already is gone in the US.

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Post by everfraid »

Thorentis wrote: post #68

This is brilliant. A single device that does one thing, and does it (hopefully) really well. It is a much needed antidote to the "all in one" apps we are seeing more and more of. Touchscreens really embody the "all in one" design pattern, and lend themselves to those types of apps. That's after all what they're intended for: interchangeable interfaces. Nice to see a modern service being used with an analog interface.

This is why I really enjoy the Kindle I just bought. A single use: reading books.

Re: Yayagram

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Post by gordian-mind »

bozzcl wrote: post #76
khazhoux wrote: post #71

I only wish it weren't named Yaya, as I hate promoting the idea that old women are the pinnacle of technological ineptness. I know that wasn't the intent, but still. It's unfortunately a common expression to say "This product is so easy, even your grandmother can use it!" As if the only group more incompetent than old people, is old women (or, if you prefer, the only group more incompetent than women are old women).…

If you know that wasn't the intent, why make this complaint at all?

This type of bland complaint is just a common way nowadays to signal that you are part of the In-group, that cares about people.
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