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Re: History of Techno

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I'm missing a reference to the hardcore 'gabber' techno which was a hugely popular subculture in The Netherlands in the 1990s... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabber

That's perhaps because many believe that gabber has more roots in house, rave and punk rather than techno.

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Its easy to miss but descriptions of the different genres are the true mvp. Some of the saltiest things I have read, true hilarity. E.g `Eurotrance`: > "The rank repugnance of the self-fellating culture of DJ worship is at the forefront of this many-headed hydra of rapacious rot. Overbearing anthems, boring breakdowns, and tasteless DJ vanity have combined into one monstrous, obnoxious, pompous, unlistenable Babyloni…

These kind of rants have gone really old for me, like the person is stuck in 2009 at the golden age of Pitchfork/Vice/Hipster blogs... music elitism/criticism.

Because sarcasm and personal taste have gone out of style?

Not to mention those things were a thing at the time of Lester Bangs or the NME, 50+ years ago (and even in reviewers of classical music) hardly a Pitchfork era phenomenon or invention....

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This is about as conventional a narrative as you can get. I've never been happy with it though, it's way too much of a tidy, linear, clean through-line. For instance, this narrative always leave out free-style and electro like Hashim (example: 1983, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY ), Newcleus, etc. Soulsonic Force (1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQ11l4uiM4 ) predated Atkins Cybotron project and At…

Thanks for bringing this. This article basically looks at what beatports has to propose but it just totally forgets so many things that it's not even funny. What about "pop corn" too ?

Re: History of Techno

#74

I'm missing a reference to the hardcore 'gabber' techno which was a hugely popular subculture in The Netherlands in the 1990s... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabber

It is mentioned in the article.

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post #73

This is about as conventional a narrative as you can get. I've never been happy with it though, it's way too much of a tidy, linear, clean through-line. For instance, this narrative always leave out free-style and electro like Hashim (example: 1983, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY ), Newcleus, etc. Soulsonic Force (1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQ11l4uiM4 ) predated Atkins Cybotron project and At…

Thanks for bringing this. This article basically looks at what beatports has to propose but it just totally forgets so many things that it's not even funny. What about "pop corn" too ?

To be fair, it'd need to be a book to cover everything and they include quite a lot here.

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I'm surprised there's no mention of New Order's Blue Monday in there. I thought it was seen as a key moment in the history of techno? Can anyone with more knowledge than me comment on why it isn't there? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYH8DsU2WCk

I've never heard anything about this track in the context of techno, its a synth pop tune really.

It's definitely influential and you can occasionally hear it in some of the clubs mentioned in the article to this day (typically at closing).

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They try to be as concise as possible. For example, they completely missed out Front 242, Nitzer Ebb. However they at least mention the genre, EBM. And to be honest: what is techno else than Tallas invention in a record store? Frontpage magazine? So many things left out, but who cares? You either witnessed parts of the 90th or not. ;) I never understood my parents fondness for Woodstock and how an e guitar could be t…

They actually did mention Nitzer Ebb if you do a ctrl-F. Yes, very cool techno-ish, minimal seminal music. Ritchie Hawtin used to spin Murderous into his sets. Recently there was a cool documentary about Wax Trax records called Industrial Accident. Worth seeing. Interviews with Front 242, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, KMFDM, Thrill Kill Kult, Trent Reznor, Frontline Assembly, etc.

Any reference about that documentary ? The rev's, FLA, 242, all my not so youth :-)

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post #73

This is about as conventional a narrative as you can get. I've never been happy with it though, it's way too much of a tidy, linear, clean through-line. For instance, this narrative always leave out free-style and electro like Hashim (example: 1983, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykK0uEjSsqY ), Newcleus, etc. Soulsonic Force (1982: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHQ11l4uiM4 ) predated Atkins Cybotron project and At…

Thanks for bringing this. This article basically looks at what beatports has to propose but it just totally forgets so many things that it's not even funny. What about "pop corn" too ?

I don't think popcorn is part of it to be honest. It's some adjacent siderail of groups like Mannheim Steamroller or BBC Radiophonic (eg Delia Derbyshire/Dr Who theme) or for that matter, video game music.

Check out the "Soothing Sounds for Baby" album by Raymond Scott (1962) for an early example of this.

To put Popcorn in comparison to what would be on the techno track at that time, look at Hugo Montenegro's Moog album, released the same year. His MacArthur Park rendition I would argue is a closer direct ancestor to techno being in the pursuit of electronic dance. Direct link https://youtu.be/eNM6187cznE

There's certainly "bridges" between the worlds like the 1979 Automat album https://youtu.be/w7nQHBiv_u0 or the Droids "Star Peace" but synth and techno are kinda like the catholics and eastern orthodox, they split off a long time ago and kinda have their own worlds.

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Histories of techno always leave out some of my favorites from the early 2000s Adam Beyer / Drumcode era of fast maximalist techno—Zenit records for instance https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPN0gicPJTTUJVhVMzCne... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOfuXwU6GoQ And I was surprised they mentioned Surgeon and Regis, but not their Downwards Records https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBilbhSIIhgKbRezA7RoO...

I grew up with Drumcode. It was quite common with forest raves here in Sweden, basically a huge sound system in some remote place and people dancing over night. And at one point there were also some organisers who rented a whole cruise liner, with people like Adam Beyer and Thomas Krome DJ’ing. My favourites include: surgeon, headroom, the advent, invexis, chris liebing, planetary assault systems, mark broom, poundin…

Drumcode is still going strong and Beyer does a weekly podcast, which is excellent (and supports RSS too). I still love that sound even though I'm now far too old to have the stamina to party like I did in the 90s/00s.

IDM has also been a huge love of my life. I'm not sure I could pick a favourite out of techno or IDM though. But Drumcode Radio is certainly good music to run to.

Slam did a rather nice podcast that sat somewhere between techno and experimental. I don't know if their podcast is still going but their RSS feed has certainly stopped :(

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