I don't think there should be a minimum legal age for any of these activities. It's beyond clear that coddling helicopter government invoked disastrous consequences for Western society
How is society improved by letting 8 year olds gamble?
Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds
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#72People without kids probably agree to this
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's absolutely automated, but it begs the question, should it be allowed to be, particularly when dealing with minors? It seems crazy this case slipped through to exist when Facebook has been around for so long.
The associated comments that are downvoted seem to imply that Facebook intended for this to happen and it wasn't just automation and bureaucracy. Should it be stopped? If it violates the law, absolutely; but, we should recognize it for what it is, not some nefarious, evil plot to harm the young of multiple nations.
While not intended, at Facebook's age and scale, I think gross negligence is a fair assessment. That said, it seems like upthread there's questions on the validity of the report methodology, so probably standby on any diagnosis here.
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#74While it is obviously unethical, is advertising alcohol, vaping and gambling to 13-17 year olds illegal in Australia? Asking because I am not sure if Facebook should be making the shots here on what is legal or illegal to advertise. This is best handled through government.
In my country (not AU) they banned alcohol advertising completely a couple of years ago, because alcoholism is a big problem here. So instead of advertising alcohol, the breweries now advertise their alcohol free drinks. They just changed "Carlsberg" to "Carlsberg Alcohol Free" on the same ads, and boom it's allowed.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
When watching TV during a football (Aussie rules football not soccer) game I see probably 15-20 gambling ads and so would the 0-17 year olds watching. There is also an ad with Matthew McConaughey drinking whiskey, although im not sure if that's during prime time or late hours. Never seen a smoking or vaping ad though.
>When watching TV during a football (Aussie rules football not soccer) game I see probably 15-20 gambling ads and so would the 0-17 year olds watching. There's a huge difference between targeting an age group and the age group being exposed by association. If you saw ads on the Sunday morning cartoons for whiskey and gambling, you could rightly say they are targeting children. Ads put on during a football game that t…
Never said there wasn't...
Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
The associated comments that are downvoted seem to imply that Facebook intended for this to happen and it wasn't just automation and bureaucracy. Should it be stopped? If it violates the law, absolutely; but, we should recognize it for what it is, not some nefarious, evil plot to harm the young of multiple nations.
While not intended, at Facebook's age and scale, I think gross negligence is a fair assessment. That said, it seems like upthread there's questions on the validity of the report methodology, so probably standby on any diagnosis here.
> I think gross negligence is a fair assessment.
I'll buy this, for sure.
With a lot of things that are built, I think the collective of engineers may need to be more thoughtful about 2nd and 3rd order effects from the decisions that are being made or not made. Emergent Systems are absolutely a thing.
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#77Pension funds demand more profits, FB complies and sells teenagers (i.e. the nation's future) to the alcohol and gambling industry. This is pretty much what America is about these days: the top 1% is milking the bottom 50% and hardly anybody cares about the future.
Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds
#78Pension funds demand more profits, FB complies and sells teenagers (i.e. the nation's future) to the alcohol and gambling industry. This is pretty much what America is about these days: the top 1% is milking the bottom 50% and hardly anybody cares about the future.
Tax the billionaires more tbh
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is such a “le late stage capitalism” sentiment that I see posted all the time. It completely misrepresents the responsibility of a public company to operate in its shareholders’ best interest.
>the responsibility of a public company to operate in its shareholders’ best interest The shareholders are only interested in profits.
And how are profits gained? Ideally, in providing goods or services of value to society.
In a competitive free market the profit incentive is actually the 'who can do the most good for society' incentive.
Re: Facebook approves alcohol, vaping and gambling ads targeting 13-17 year olds
#80Pension funds demand more profits, FB complies and sells teenagers (i.e. the nation's future) to the alcohol and gambling industry. This is pretty much what America is about these days: the top 1% is milking the bottom 50% and hardly anybody cares about the future.
Tax the billionaires more tbh
You will get downvoted for saying that, even though it's obviously the truth.