Live data from Hacker News

Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

cnbc.com

71–80 of 108 posts

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#71
post #64
post #33

It's staggering to think that this TV show might cost well over $2 billion. We are approaching numbers typically used only of events like the Manhattan Project or Apollo. Considering that movies and shows still get made about those and the apparently exponential growth of budgets, it seems likely that at some point, there will have been more money spent cumulatively on shows about the MP or Apollo than on the actual…

Exactly this. More companies are spending more money and making more shows than ever. So much could be done, so many more innovation to be made. And here we are. Apple and Amazon. Sigh. One of the very good thing about these media is that they consume "the" fundamental unit we cant earn; Time . Which means we can only watch as much as we have time for. Edit: I mean if we could spend $2B making this, surely it isn't t…

Theres hardly any red tape in our imaginations. Much easier to build up in there.

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#72

Although I suspect this will not be a popular comment, I hope the Amazon series will remain faithful to the Catholic/Christian sense that Tolkien deliberately infused into these novels. Peter Jackson did a notably good job with that, all things considered. To be clear, I don't think that you should have to be a Christian to like Lord of the Rings -- quite the contrary. But given the lack of compelling Christian art i…

Who’s the pope figure in the middle-earth context?

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that LotR is not a straightforward allegory, but I'm also going off more than the author's religious identity. In Tolkien's words: "The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work, unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like "religion", to cults or practices, in the Imagin…

I’m not sure even the author is authoritative over their own work. Ray Bradbury once famously ditched a guest lecture because his audience disagreed on the framing of his book. JK Rowling is thought to go back and retrospectively reframe her book, a framing which she has trouble gathering consensus for despite being the author.

It's definitely an interesting question -- the "death of the author." Personally, as a reader, I draw the line at disagreeing with explicitly stated intentions of authors if I find those intentions are well-evidenced in their texts. In the case of LotR, I would be inclined to say that they are -- but an element of subjective judgment will always trouble these discussions.

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#74
post #38
post #33

It's staggering to think that this TV show might cost well over $2 billion. We are approaching numbers typically used only of events like the Manhattan Project or Apollo. Considering that movies and shows still get made about those and the apparently exponential growth of budgets, it seems likely that at some point, there will have been more money spent cumulatively on shows about the MP or Apollo than on the actual…

If more money is spent making a show about Apollo than the actual Apollo missions - why not film them on location?

Someone once joked that if Kubrick had been asked to fake the moon landings he would have insisted on filming on the moon for maximum realism.

The main problem is probably cost disease; if you tried to recreate any Apollo missions today it would cost you more (adjusted for inflation even) that it originally did.

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#75
post #23

Although I suspect this will not be a popular comment, I hope the Amazon series will remain faithful to the Catholic/Christian sense that Tolkien deliberately infused into these novels. Peter Jackson did a notably good job with that, all things considered. To be clear, I don't think that you should have to be a Christian to like Lord of the Rings -- quite the contrary. But given the lack of compelling Christian art i…

Well, I have some bad news. It’s looking like they’re going to ape Game of Thrones, nudity and all. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/lor...

Let's click through to their source as all the Independent has to offer is oversimplification and some social media posts: https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2020/10/06/108573-sex-sensi...

So the intimacy coordinator who appears be working on the project, and might be working in that role or some other role, might be there for a sex scene, or perhaps only for some non-sexual nudity.

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#76
post #2

Curious if I'm the only one here who thinks that LotR is overrated. Let them spend the money on a better story.

Lord of the Rings is great for many reasons, but when it comes to story His Dark Materials is better. It's a real shame they messed up the movie for that one.

The HBO series has been fantastic so far.

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure even the author is authoritative over their own work. Ray Bradbury once famously ditched a guest lecture because his audience disagreed on the framing of his book. JK Rowling is thought to go back and retrospectively reframe her book, a framing which she has trouble gathering consensus for despite being the author.

It's definitely an interesting question -- the "death of the author." Personally, as a reader, I draw the line at disagreeing with explicitly stated intentions of authors if I find those intentions are well-evidenced in their texts. In the case of LotR, I would be inclined to say that they are -- but an element of subjective judgment will always trouble these discussions.

[deleted]

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#78
post #29

Although I suspect this will not be a popular comment, I hope the Amazon series will remain faithful to the Catholic/Christian sense that Tolkien deliberately infused into these novels. Peter Jackson did a notably good job with that, all things considered. To be clear, I don't think that you should have to be a Christian to like Lord of the Rings -- quite the contrary. But given the lack of compelling Christian art i…

> the lack of compelling Christian art in general the past 50 or 60 years What about all those Mel Gibson movies that you guys have?

"you guys"?

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#79

Although I suspect this will not be a popular comment, I hope the Amazon series will remain faithful to the Catholic/Christian sense that Tolkien deliberately infused into these novels. Peter Jackson did a notably good job with that, all things considered. To be clear, I don't think that you should have to be a Christian to like Lord of the Rings -- quite the contrary. But given the lack of compelling Christian art i…

Who’s the pope figure in the middle-earth context?

[deleted]

Re: Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ series will cost at least $465M for first season

#80

Although I suspect this will not be a popular comment, I hope the Amazon series will remain faithful to the Catholic/Christian sense that Tolkien deliberately infused into these novels. Peter Jackson did a notably good job with that, all things considered. To be clear, I don't think that you should have to be a Christian to like Lord of the Rings -- quite the contrary. But given the lack of compelling Christian art i…

Tolkien was famously against the idea of allegory in fiction (in stark contrast with his friend C.S. Lewis). All parts of an author's life are going to influence his creative works - that's just inevitable - so I'm sure you could find some things that might be traced back to his religion. But you could say the same thing about his experience fighting in WWI, for example. I highly doubt there were any intentional references or parallels.

I recommend reading his essay On Fairy-stories to get a window into the role he sees fantasy as having. Interestingly he does tie it in with his faith at a meta-level: he sees it as a sub-creation within the larger creation; himself a sub-creator. But the hallmark of that sub-creation is for things to be different and separate in key ways. I don't think he would reduce his work to being a mere echo of his beliefs, even partially, beyond abstract themes like good and evil and hope.

Post reply on HN