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Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by CivBase »

wvenable wrote: post #64

So Microsoft is advertising an existing feature of the Edge browser to people who are using Edge. What's the controversy here? I have many apps that do that when a new version is pushed out and they have new features.

> It’s worth noting that the pop-up will appear even when Microsoft Edge is the default browser and you’ve already pinned sites to the taskbar. The company is not targeting people who use Google Chrome and Firefox as default browsers.

That statement implies to me that they are also advertising to people who aren't using Edge.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by rightbyte »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #65
isoprophlex wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

Admittedly, it is awful and stupid. On the other hand, those of us who use it find the alternative to be even worse despite being free. Imagine what problems must exist with that alternative for this to be true.

When you buy a computer, or get one from work, it is preloaded with Windows.

Windows is essentially "free", as in for most people there is no savings from not using Windows, like it is i.e. if you build your desktop your self.

Linux is compeeting with effectivly mandatory prepaid Windows installs.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by kumarharsh »

OnlyOneCannolo wrote: post #54
voidfunc wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ive been using Edge for the last few months and very happy with it. The new vertical tabs feature is great.

I don't understand the vertical tabs. The top bar still takes up just as much space. But now I also have less horizontal space too.

I think they mentioned that they're going to remove the top bar for vertical tabs

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by whalesalad »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #5
whalesalad wrote: post #2

Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

apple doesnt give their os away for free

I haven't paid for an OS upgrade since Snow Leopard in 2009.

For all intents and purposes their OS is free - the consumer does not ever need to worry about upgrade costs.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by whalesalad »

tester756 wrote: post #18
whalesalad wrote: post #2

Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

I have Windows 10 Pro and I don't see any ads. I don't have win app store / one drive too, removed that on the first day.

win 10 pro is $200

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by gruez »

jonatron wrote: post #34

I spent hours at the weekend making a windows 10 image with as much bloat disabled as possible. It looks like after just a few days, Microsoft have given me more stuff to remove. I only use it for gaming, so maybe my efforts would be better spent on getting games to work on Linux?

>It looks like after just a few days, Microsoft have given me more stuff to remove.

use LTSC. it only has security updates so you're not forced to constantly decrapify your OS.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by eitland »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #65
isoprophlex wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

Admittedly, it is awful and stupid. On the other hand, those of us who use it find the alternative to be even worse despite being free. Imagine what problems must exist with that alternative for this to be true.

Some of us find the alternatives to be really really good compared to Windows. The only thing I should wish was that IT was (even more) supportive.

Lucky us I guess.

(FTR: Linux is as usual as Mac at work now. I've even seen a team lead and a sales guy run Linux!)

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by zeta0134 »

Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there.

Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it.

Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the C++ redistributable package, despite not including Visual Studio, helpfully adds an explorer shell link to "Open in Visual Studio" which I suspect is meant to open the Store again, though on my system it appears to do nothing. So that's another ad.

Clearly I'm not the target audience for this kind of stuff, being a Linux administrator and using that as my daily driver, but there's still something inherently creepy about all of this. I don't trust marketers, or the advertising industry at large, and while I understand Microsoft is a business and is necessarily going to engage in some marketing, there's a time and a place. Basic features of my operating system are not it.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

whalesalad wrote: post #74
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

apple doesnt give their os away for free

I haven't paid for an OS upgrade since Snow Leopard in 2009. For all intents and purposes their OS is free - the consumer does not ever need to worry about upgrade costs.

are you running their os on an apple computer
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