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Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by jp_nc »

thelean12 wrote: post #31
Simulacra wrote: post #7

I was lucky enough to go to the Masters in 1999, and 2014 and the change was remarkable. The 1999 course was very quaint and secluded, with the facilities mostly temporary structures. You parked in peoples front yards for $25 a day, and yes the food was great, yet cheap. Fast forward to 2014 and it's like the place had become a major sports park. Suddenly the houses are gone and you're parking in a huge field, going…

Overly commercialized is a strange way to put it. It's certainly the least commercialized of all the major golf tournaments. Daily tickets are the cheapest at $115. Food is incredibly inexpensive. And you can watch at home for free, with probably the best coverage of any tournament, on their website.

Not to mention nothing is branded. You don’t buy a Coke, you buy cola. It’s not Powerade but sports drink. Beer is domestic or import.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by refulgentis »

samatman wrote: post #70
javert wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a bastard. I don't see an easy way to report your calling me that, and I don't want to bug the mods with an email, so I'll instead just tell you: Go to hell. OK, hope we're even now.

Taking offense at a bit of Latin doggerel which wasn't even addressed directly at you is lame, javert. Responding with direct insults and threats is completely over the top. This is the Internet. Calm down.

It was, at least somewhat, cruel

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by refulgentis »

listenallyall wrote: post #50
gnu8 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a club I would care to be a member of in any case, given their history of excluding women and minorities.

This is purely rhetorical, as I have no doubt you will never be invited to join. However, my question is whether you believe there is ever a level of change and progress and reconciliation that would allow an organization with a far-from-perfect past, to move forward and embrace current social values? Or does every organization that ever had a history of racism or sexism permanently on your "banned" list? If there is…

Is this a common rejoinder? I was struck by the other replies stating the same question.

Regardless, people who are black weren't invited until 1990, people with vaginas weren't invited until 2012, and the founder was rather infamously proud of this and loud-spoken about it. This is hardly a 'how many times do you need them to apologize' situation, in all cases they merely quietly began accepting people, after defending their position until then.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by chihuahua »

40four wrote: post #65

I love golf, and I love the Masters! To me, it has always been the unofficial ‘start of spring’. Congrats to Mr. Matsuyama on his victory this year! What a great story! Notice the prices of the concessions. They are only trying to break even at best, probably lose money. I still haven’t been in person, but these stories are legendary. This is one of the reasons it is considered the best pro sports event you can atten…

How difficult or expensive is it to get tickets?

When I was more interested in golf, I used to love watching the Masters on TV. The organizers limit the amount of ads the network can insert so it's much less annoying than regular TV. Very calming and beautiful to look at.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by chihuahua »

grimjack00 wrote: post #52
wil421 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP used his own version of a stone’s throw away. It’s farther away than a Hop, Skip, and, a Jump but not as close as spitting distance. Still not sure if a Hop, Skip, and a Jump is closer or father away than something you wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole.

The world record for the triple jump [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_jump ] is just over 18 meters, so quite a bit further than a 10 foot pole.

But is a triple jump the same as a hop, skip and jump? It seems to me that a hop and a skip are each smaller than a jump.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by benatkin »

javert wrote: post #22
DoreenMichele wrote: post #20

What we do have, however, is a lifelong Masters patron and Augusta food blogger who wasn’t above reverse-engineering the ingredients list from the back of the wrapper in 2016. It’s an imitation of an imitation of an approximation... That's such a delightful description. When a new building is constructed, he says, it simply appears the day of the tournament’s opening, already inexplicably covered in vines. (Insert jo…

> tossing a rock across the river Rivers can be miles wide. That's actually the norm in a lot of people's experiences. Where I am from, "tossing a rock across the river" would be taken to mean something that's impossible.

What you often see about really wide rivers:

> Depending on the geographer, the Río de la Plata may be considered a river, an estuary, a gulf, or a marginal sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADo_de_la_Plata

Fine to assume the river isn't miles wide.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by dpeck »

40four wrote: post #65

I love golf, and I love the Masters! To me, it has always been the unofficial ‘start of spring’. Congrats to Mr. Matsuyama on his victory this year! What a great story! Notice the prices of the concessions. They are only trying to break even at best, probably lose money. I still haven’t been in person, but these stories are legendary. This is one of the reasons it is considered the best pro sports event you can atten…

true on the concessions, not quite as true on the souvenirs. I got to go to the kids drive-chip-putt competition a few years ago. The branded shirts, blankets, bags, etc all go for quite a premium and people love buying them anyway.

It is a very well put on event though, and it brings an absurd amount of money into the Augusta area. Many businesses make another month of revenue during Masters week and a lot of residents rent out their homes for several times their mortgage payment.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by DoreenMichele »

refulgentis wrote: post #72
samatman wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking offense at a bit of Latin doggerel which wasn't even addressed directly at you is lame, javert. Responding with direct insults and threats is completely over the top. This is the Internet. Calm down.

It was, at least somewhat, cruel

While his follow-up comment isn't ideal, it is in response to an ugly personal attack. I deleted my reply to that now flagged-to-death comment because I don't want to make this about me.

I'm quite confident the intent was to be kind to me, not commentary aimed at javert at all.

One of the challenges of interacting on the internet is that it's very hard to say a thing aimed at one person that cannot be wildly misconstrued as being something ugly about someone else. I think that's all that happened here. The comment was aimed at me because my behavior looked extremely defensive rather than looking like "Oh, river factoids! I wonder how wide rivers are? (starts googling)"

I wish people would drop this. It's an unfortunate incident rooted in a well-meaning comment and I hate seeing this go sideways.

Re: The Masters pimento cheese sandwich scandal

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Post by dpeck »

chihuahua wrote: post #74
40four wrote: post #65

I love golf, and I love the Masters! To me, it has always been the unofficial ‘start of spring’. Congrats to Mr. Matsuyama on his victory this year! What a great story! Notice the prices of the concessions. They are only trying to break even at best, probably lose money. I still haven’t been in person, but these stories are legendary. This is one of the reasons it is considered the best pro sports event you can atten…

How difficult or expensive is it to get tickets? When I was more interested in golf, I used to love watching the Masters on TV. The organizers limit the amount of ads the network can insert so it's much less annoying than regular TV. Very calming and beautiful to look at.

There’s a lottery where you can get them basically free.

The members of The National, and the club itself don’t need the money.

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Post by listenallyall »

chihuahua wrote: post #74
40four wrote: post #65

I love golf, and I love the Masters! To me, it has always been the unofficial ‘start of spring’. Congrats to Mr. Matsuyama on his victory this year! What a great story! Notice the prices of the concessions. They are only trying to break even at best, probably lose money. I still haven’t been in person, but these stories are legendary. This is one of the reasons it is considered the best pro sports event you can atten…

How difficult or expensive is it to get tickets? When I was more interested in golf, I used to love watching the Masters on TV. The organizers limit the amount of ads the network can insert so it's much less annoying than regular TV. Very calming and beautiful to look at.

If you can actually get a badge (not tickets) directly from Augusta National (likely via the lottery), it costs $115. If you're a random person trying to buy one on Stubhub, prepare to pay $6000+.

https://golf.com/news/tournaments/2019-masters-tickets-absur...

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