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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by scotu » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:47 PM UTC

solarkraft wrote: post #32

bilekas wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox does seem to have really improved over the last few iterations, performance also when large numbers of tabs open. I cant find the link right now, but there was a nice timings done where Chrome was using less CPU at lower tab counts, but when it increased count, the CPU utilization was considerably higher than FF. I'll be giving it a fair shake for a few months.

I use Firefox out of principle and because of Sidebery, but WOW, Chromium is faster by a lot from my experience. That is fresh Chromium vs. configured and used Firefox, though.

thanks for getting Sidebery on my radar! I tried treestyletabs and unfortunately it felt somewhat disappointing given how much people seem to like it.

At a first try Sidebery looks and feels more modern/slick! Might be what I was looking for!

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by crazygringo » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:49 PM UTC

lolinder wrote: post #64

staticassertion wrote: post #30

Sucks, but I'm pretty locked into Chrome. I use GSuite for management, ChromeOS, etc. Maybe it means that uBlock Origin can't protect me as well, but it's pretty hard for me to give up the benefits from all of those other things. I don't see Firefox competing. Mozilla doesn't seem to believe that monetizing a browser is possible, whereas I pay thousands of dollars a year at my company because of Chrome's integrations…

ChromeOS is one thing, but what in GSuite doesn't work on Firefox?

Not the parent commenter, but I'd assume it's mainly browser sync.

Being able to log into any Chromebook and immediately have all yours bookmarks/apps/tools/passwords/etc. that you use on your desktop and laptop is pretty useful.

As great as Firefox is, if you use Chromebooks then you're gonna use, well, Chrome.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by pharmakom » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:50 PM UTC

I love Firefox and I use it on principle. I don’t think I have a worse web experience, although that wouldn’t stop me.

What does break websites is turning on anti-tracking measures. The number of times a site won’t work till I enable third party cookies shows the sad state of the web. Developers, do you only test in Chrome on Windows with default settings or something?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by RamRodification » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:51 PM UTC

bassdropvroom wrote: post #52

> The Firefox version of uBO makes use of WebAssembly code for core filtering code paths. This is not the case with Chromium-based browsers because this would require an extra permission in the extension manifest which could cause friction when publishing the extension in the Chrome Web Store. Anyone know what this extra permission is and why requesting this extra permission would cause friction?

Yeah that one sounds like a negative being described as a positive.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by mcyukon » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:51 PM UTC

isatty wrote: post #21

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

On an iPhone? I was a noscript user from 10+ years ago (I guess?) and I’ve been using uBo for as long as I can remember but isn’t Firefox on iPhone just a wrapper? Is it battery efficient? As a workaround I use a Pi-Hole (except, not on a pi).

It is just a webkit wrapper. At least the last time I looked into it. UBlock Origin isn't possible. You can get some Apple sanctioned Ad-Blockers, but I think most (or all?) of them use a invisible VPN with DNS based ad blocking.

Mozilla has Firefox Focus for iOS, it does Ad Blocking but it's main selling point is No Tracking, No history and No synced bookmarks either

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by MacroChip » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:52 PM UTC

crocsarecool wrote: post #13

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

I made https://thisfoodblogdoesnotexist.com as satire. It uses GPT2 to generate blog content like those 15 paragraph essays.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by donatzsky » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:53 PM UTC

podiki wrote: post #46

I can't live without uBlock Origin and uMatrix, and was sad to see uMatrix archived [0]. Still works great, but I'm wondering what will happen long term. Anyone also use both and since drop uMatrix for something else, or just uBlock? How is it? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24532973

As I remember it, you really shouldn't be using both at the same time. Don't remember why, only that it's a bad idea. And you can set up uBlock to do most of what uMatrix does anyway.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by lotsofpulp » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:53 PM UTC

coldpie wrote: post #34

ub99 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use AdGuard pro on an iPhone and generally don’t see any ads at all in Safari. I believe this app will block ads in any iOS browser.

I'd like to switch to iPhone, but the lack of real Firefox + uBO is what keeps me from doing it. It's good to know there are some options there, thanks for the pointer.

If ad blocking is all you’re looking for, I can’t remember the last time I saw an ad in Safari iOS with Firefox focus content blocker, or Wipr content blocker.

I don’t notice any difference between Firefox or Chrome + ublock origin and Safari + Wipr/Firefox Focus.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by 411111111111111 » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:54 PM UTC

725686 wrote: post #59

voxic11 wrote: post #27

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Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

Is it? Last time I tried, here where a bunch of sites that just didn't work.

I haven't encountered any issues since I switched almost two years ago.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by themgt » Fri, Apr 09, 2021, 8:54 PM UTC

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Google intentionally crippling their own free, market-dominant browser in a way that just-so-happens to make ad-blocking difficult honestly reminds me of the Microsoft anti-trust case back in the late 90s. Google is an ad company doing embrace-extend-extinguish on other markets just to optimize selling your eyes/attention to advertisers.