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Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by skohan »

Pfhreak wrote: post #62
minimuffins wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you being ironic? Of course there's something to see: the latest glacial shift in the accretion of content control by tech platforms.

> latest glacial shift in the accretion of content control by tech platforms It's weird that folks are pointing to a phenomena that's been going on for generations as if it is something novel. There have always been winners and losers in who controls the message. While tech companies seem to be aggregating control over some of the message, it's not like corporate America hasn't had control for a long, long time. Whet…

That may be true, but we're also witnessing one of those periods of consolidation of control right now. We could resign ourselves to history, or we could try to do something about it

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by tootie »

cjdell wrote: post #65

Joe should get on to LBRY / Odysee. It would be the tipping point in moving to decentralised platforms. He'd probably make a killing too as LBRY makes it really easy to tip content creators.

Why would he do that when Spotify gave him $100M and he isn't upset that they're doing this?

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by tartoran »

k_bx wrote: post #51

Off-topic but still makes me sad: Spotify removed all episodes of Joe Rogan for me by removing podcasts feature from Ukrainian (and not only) users. I’m a paid user btw. Worst part is that since JRE is free for such large part of internet users, it’s impossible to find on torrents unless it’s Elon Musk or similar. Sigh.

Can you find it on Youtube?

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by Pfhreak »

minimuffins wrote: post #56
CyberRabbi wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t make me feel any specific way. I’m just referencing information. What do you mean exactly?

> It doesn’t make me feel any specific way. I think it should! It's disconcerting to see the expansion of platform censorship even if the censored party is aware of it, "doesn't care," and was in on the deal. That "it's just business" doesn't make it a neutral development. Spotify gets to decide what ideologies are acceptable for Spotify listeners. This is just one point on the graph. The overall picture is more and…

I think a lot of folks, myself included, see what you are pointing at and think, "That's not novel. That's the way media works, and has worked, for generations."

What makes Spotify different from, for example, radio stations deciding which music I should listen to in the 50s? Or TV stations deciding which shows I should see in the 80s?

Media companies have always cared and deliberately curated the ideologies they present -- whether that's a political ideology or a marketing one. (I know that a whole lot of the TV shows of my childhood were aimed at selling me toys, for instance.)

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by snurfer »

drcongo wrote: post #61

I really hope this continues until I no longer have to hear the words "I heard on the Joe Rogan podcast..." followed by some fully anti-science nonsense from the overly credulous. That show has a lot to answer for.

Look on the bright side: people are talking about (and thinking about) topics they might not normally be exposed to. The blame for lack of critical thought skills might fall more upon our parents and educators than Joe Rogan.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by tootie »

mikece wrote: post #2

I wonder how much longer Spotify will continue to delude themselves that they can take successful podcasts and put them into their walled garden -- turning off legit, public RSS feeds -- and that it will somehow work out for them. Rumor is that Apple is going to launch premium podcasts and turn off access to the iTunes podcast directory in order to have their own walled garden for select, paid podcasters. Eventually…

Premium podcasts already exist in the wild, but there's no way in hell Apple could just shut down a market as big as free podcasts. The next player to arise will be Google who is going to press their products for programmatic advertising.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by colllectorof »

Gotta love the constant movement of goalposts and gaslighting around this. As in many other cases it started with claims that nobody intends to censor any content during the move. Then when deletions actually took place the narrative radically shifted to the claim that content removal was always the obvious, natural and reasonable course and there should be no controversy, because it was inevitable all along.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by k_bx »

tartoran wrote: post #74
k_bx wrote: post #51

Off-topic but still makes me sad: Spotify removed all episodes of Joe Rogan for me by removing podcasts feature from Ukrainian (and not only) users. I’m a paid user btw. Worst part is that since JRE is free for such large part of internet users, it’s impossible to find on torrents unless it’s Elon Musk or similar. Sigh.

Can you find it on Youtube?

No, only short clips are uploaded there now.

Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by knorker »

basisword wrote: post #13

>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.

It's embrace and extinguish.

From the articles linked it's almost as if half of Spotify went "yes! Finally we'll have the power to reign that monster in, and silence him. We'll make him our PC puppet! Muhahahaha"

I think it's new. It was intended as a business deal, but the activist-firsts are seeing their chance to silence an enemy.

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