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I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The right question is, What is it about certain/many good developers that leads them to program in their spare time? This is a good question, but it does lead me to a thought... why does it seem like most side projects are done by people for whom the predominance of their work appears to be side projects? Let me explain. Most of the programmers who produce large products, don't do much in the way of side projects. Ca…

Linus has a few: tracker[1], pesconvert[2], and a fork of uemacs[3]. 1. http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/tracker.g... 2. http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/pesconver... 3. http://git.kernel.org/?p=editors/uemacs/uemacs.git;a=summary

Thanks. OK, you have your street cred back Linus. These clearly show you can program.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #5

when i'm working a 9-5 job, the last thing i want to do is go home and program more. i'd rather throw the ball around with the dog or rock out on my guitar. in my experience the people who say "you have to have side projects to be a good developer" are either people who do program in their spare time, or people who want to hire the type of programmers who voluntarily chain themselves to their desk. this is one myth i…

The best lawyers, I would expect, read about law in their spare time, debate their friends on legal issues, and keep honing their skills. The best doctors, I would hope, keep up with medical literature, reading up on the latest advances and changes in their spare time. The best artists, I am fairly sure, will continue to sketch and paint in their spare time. The best carpenters, cabinetmakers, etc will continue to work wood even when they're not on the job.

No, it's not restricted to programmers, although continuing to focus on honing work does seem to be far more prevalent in the creative professions.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #20

Most developers I know - in real life - don't program in their spare time, never mind going to conferences or evening meet ups. If you work as a developer and your hobby is developing then there's a good chance that you'll burn out. That's not to say that it is bad for people who do it, just try to expand your hobbies to something outside of technology.

If you work as a developer and your hobby is developing then there's a good chance that you'll burn out. People are allowed to have more than one hobby. And I'd think that if your paid job is writing and maintaining boring internal enterprise apps, hacking on fun projects could prevent you from getting burned out.

I occasionally try new recipes, jog, travel, exercise and other none computer related activities are way to prevent from getting burned out.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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I find that the less time you spend programming, more time solutioning the better developer you become. reading and learning how other folk are solutioning is where its at for me. anyone can program, not everyone can design a good solution for a problem.

If you enjoy programming as a job, then in your spare time you allow for tech, take the time to read a couple of pages here and there. If you don't read or get exposed to other talented programmers/architects then yeah, you are destined to be a bad developer!

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #5

when i'm working a 9-5 job, the last thing i want to do is go home and program more. i'd rather throw the ball around with the dog or rock out on my guitar. in my experience the people who say "you have to have side projects to be a good developer" are either people who do program in their spare time, or people who want to hire the type of programmers who voluntarily chain themselves to their desk. this is one myth i…

All those activities in other professions don't involve learning. Presumably, balancing a checkbook is a solved problem but an enthusiastic accountant may have brushed up on Sarbanes-Oxley legislation to learn how their craft would get impacted. Lawyers may not hold mock trials but they may read journals in their spare time which cover interesting precedent-setting cases. Doctors don't do surgery for fun but they may…

I find it much easier in the evenings to read about programming than to program. For me that is not the same, although it is very useful also, on a bit different level.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not sure. Could you elaborate?

Most of my friends are indians who are programmers - none of them code outside of work. And I mean none. I'm indian - I code outside of work as I'm trying to start a company. Indians look at programming as a great way to make good money. And a way to move up to management after that. Thats about it.

Reminds me http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/2011/04/mbas-vs-hackers.htm...

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #42

Sure there are programmers that don't program in their spare time that are great programmers, but I think the general theme is that doing side projects in your spare time is generally a strong signal you're adventurous, self-reliant, eager to learn, interested in broadening your skills and have a strong desire to get better -- all very important things in anyone hoping to get better at your craft. When I'm interviewi…

"Adventurous" and "Self-reliant" are not necessarily good traits for a programmer. It depends on the field one programs in.

For example, the programmers that http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html talks about are neither (at least not when on the job). They do have a strong desire to get better, though.

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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A good programmer should wake up at 6 am in the morning get a solid 2.5hrs of coding done by 8:30 am, at 8:30 leave for work, work till 6 (it goes without saying that the lunchbreak must be spent trying to learn the Haskell or if you are feeling lazy answering questions on stackoverflow). Commute from 6 to 6:30 (it's a bonus if you listen to a technical podcast during this time and no stuff like TWIT does not count,…

Well played. :)

Re: I don't program in my spare time. Does that make me a bad developer?

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post #65

A good programmer should wake up at 6 am in the morning get a solid 2.5hrs of coding done by 8:30 am, at 8:30 leave for work, work till 6 (it goes without saying that the lunchbreak must be spent trying to learn the Haskell or if you are feeling lazy answering questions on stackoverflow). Commute from 6 to 6:30 (it's a bonus if you listen to a technical podcast during this time and no stuff like TWIT does not count,…

Does that mean you code in the shower?

Shower? Have you ever smelt a REAL programmer?
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