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Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Re: Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by foobiekr »

notJim wrote: post #35
bredren wrote: post #20

We had a driver pour out a bottle of pee directly onto the street in front of our place from his open driver’s side van window on Saturday afternoon. My wife got a photo and then immediately after they delivered packages and left I went and took a photo because I couldn’t believe it. I had not heard about the controversy until then, but my wife had been following it. I read these tweets and I also didn’t believe they…

A bit surprised you sent the photos to Amazon. That person is likely to be fired. A bit of pee on the street is not going to harm anything or anyone (otherwise the streets around bars would be an enormous biohazard), although it's obviously gross.

So Amazon is blackmailing us with the delivery people as hostage?

Well, that basically describes the gig economy across the board, I guess.

Re: Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by foobiekr »

bluedino wrote: post #46
codezero wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I 100% believe that drivers pee in containers - heck, my grandfather and I used to do the same when fishing - they make containers with handles specifically made for this. That said, given that the firestorm has become very public, I would expect disgruntled (or any driver, they are wage slaves) drivers to be acting more conspicuous to draw more attention to the problem, which may temporarily inflate its visibility,…

Why wouldn't you just pee into the water into which you are fishing?

Because you are contaminating the water. Don’t do this.

Re: Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by alistairSH »

ahelwer wrote: post #43
bredren wrote: post #20

We had a driver pour out a bottle of pee directly onto the street in front of our place from his open driver’s side van window on Saturday afternoon. My wife got a photo and then immediately after they delivered packages and left I went and took a photo because I couldn’t believe it. I had not heard about the controversy until then, but my wife had been following it. I read these tweets and I also didn’t believe they…

You... ratted out the guy who delivers your packages to his corporate masters for doing the very human homeostatic requirement of urination? Seriously?

Peeing in a bottle wasn't the thing that was reported. Emptying a bottle of urine in front of the customer's home was the problem.

The driver should have emptied the bottle into a toilet on his next break (or after his shift). Or, failing that, dump it in the woods out of the way.

Re: Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by alistairSH »

Jiejeing wrote: post #65
bredren wrote: post #20

We had a driver pour out a bottle of pee directly onto the street in front of our place from his open driver’s side van window on Saturday afternoon. My wife got a photo and then immediately after they delivered packages and left I went and took a photo because I couldn’t believe it. I had not heard about the controversy until then, but my wife had been following it. I read these tweets and I also didn’t believe they…

And what do you expect them to do with their piss? Drink it? How jaded to human suffering must one be to report something as minor as this to a company known for having awful labor practices…

Keep it in the bottle until the shift ends? Dump it in the woods? Lots of choices that don't include dumping directly in front of a customer's home.

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Post by andonisus »

I am of the opinion that all truckers (or people in the delivery profession) pee in bottles to save time, not just Amazon drivers. Why is Amazon being singled out here? I suppose the argument is that it is caused by their aggressive delivery metrics and policies, but would t this be true of any shipping company? If drivers are incentivized to by the number of packages they deliver to meet bonuses or certain payouts, isn’t it logical they would do anything to save time? How would you even change the compensation or penalty structure to account for this?

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Post by anonymousab »

jaywalk wrote: post #10
kaesar14 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's reports (source: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/mar/29/jeff-bezo... ) that Bezos got mad that the media department wasn't doing enough to combat the "outright lies" spread by the media about Amazon working conditions, which apparently spurred the latest tweets from the AmazonNews account. Seems to be a self inflicted wound from ego. Edit: Source requested

The article mentions this. And I can understand Bezos getting upset (although the "lies" may be more truthful than he thinks) but the way they chose to respond was worse than doing nothing at all.

You could view it as Bezos or Amazon simply coming to terms with the fact that they are not subject to any rules of decorum, or at any risk from ever failing due to their public actions. That they, as the mega corp, have reached the point of being above society and have no need to be polite or conform to inconvenient social norms anymore.

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Post by ipsocannibal »

I think Amazon needs to ask itself how this barrage of reputational damage is going to affect tech recruiting. Its been very slow to get on the remote work as the future train, its anti-worker crush the little guy cred is through the roof, and the hypocrisy of the LPs in light of recent company actions is blaring. Each of these is particularly off putting to a sizable portion of the typically left leaning US dev set Amazon tries to recruit. I guess Amazon has recourse as they can double down on hiring H1B's to sidestep negative perceptions in the US.

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Post by antattack »

ahelwer wrote: post #43
bredren wrote: post #20

We had a driver pour out a bottle of pee directly onto the street in front of our place from his open driver’s side van window on Saturday afternoon. My wife got a photo and then immediately after they delivered packages and left I went and took a photo because I couldn’t believe it. I had not heard about the controversy until then, but my wife had been following it. I read these tweets and I also didn’t believe they…

You... ratted out the guy who delivers your packages to his corporate masters for doing the very human homeostatic requirement of urination? Seriously?

At least now Amazon cannot say they know nothing about it.

Re: Amazon security staff reported its own tweets as “suspicious,” fearing hack

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Post by vkou »

andrewnicolalde wrote: post #2

I'll never understand why companies think directly involving themselves in the political discourse is a good idea. It would honestly even be different if Jeff Bezos himself tweeted these things, but to see the Amazon corporate news account try to one-up Elizabeth Warren is so bizarre..

> I'll never understand why companies think directly involving themselves in the political discourse is a good idea.

Because the capacity to ignore politics is inversely proportionate to the danger politics poses to you.

Large incumbent corporations are deeply dependent on preserving the status quo, in order to preserve their business model. Preserving the status quo requires active politicking.

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Post by Turing_Machine »

bpodgursky wrote: post #15
Raed667 wrote: post #4

For me, the recent (petty) twitter activity of @amazonnews was the final push I needed to cut all ties with Amazon.

Really? I thought it was really refreshing to see a corporation not trying to kowtow to politicians. If Warren is saying stuff they find objectionable, call it out. If a business can't safely criticize a legislator on Twitter, that's pretty much giving up on free speech.

Regardless of whether Amazon is in the right or wrong on this particular issue, I find it far more disturbing that Warren apparently thinks she should be immune to criticism (whether that criticism is justified or not).

For the record: Amazon, you, me, or anyone else is absolutely entitled to send Elizabeth Warren snotty tweets. Or send her snotty emails. Or make snotty phone calls to her office.

She is a public servant, not a noble or a pope or whatever.

If she can't handle people being rude to her, she needs to find another line of work. The "RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH!!!" attitude is not a good look, either.

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