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Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Post by raffraffraff » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 1:14 PM UTC

But there is no library right? No database? I've always used a library, so how do I switch? Example: I have 50k tracks, and I've been using MusicBee (in wine) up to now. That lets me search using any tag, including user-defined tags, like a multi-value "instrument" tag, multi-value "moods" tag etc. (And these tags don't just live in the database, they're written to the track file so the data is portable, and I'm not locked into MusicBee)

If DeaDBeeF has no library, how can I search for tracks that have mood tag "uplifting" and instrument tag "piano"? How do I create smart playlists based on some combination of rating, last played, moods, genres and instruments? My guess is, it can't. Or if it can, it's via adding all of my tracks to a playlist, waiting for the metadata to load up, and then search. Have I got that right?

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Post by raffraffraff » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 1:23 PM UTC

amlib wrote: post #43

grinchygrinch wrote: post #37

I sigh every time someone says deadbeef is great alternative to foobar2000. The greatest thing about foobar2000 is media library which deadbeef doesn't even have. Actually, no other player on the planet can compete with foobar's media library. I'm not sure what kind of magic it uses, but the second I put new files in directories where my music is, foobar2000 sees it and I can access it in foobar. Sometimes, I listen…

Closest thing to foobar2000 is Clementine, an Amarok 1 fork... The media library features are almost as good, if not for a nasty bug where using the filter in the library "tree view" can lock the app for many seconds for no reason. The normal search window/panel is not affected and is always instantaneous tough. I've tested dozens of media players on linux, most choke on my huge library, but clementine is perfectly c…

MusicBee whips it, and all the other Amazon 1.4 forks. I was a massive Amarok 1.4 fan, and I think MusicBee is the dog's bollocks. On Linux, you need to install via wine though. But it's rock solid. You need to go for the 3.0 release though - after that, drag ordering of files doesn't work in Wine. There isn't a compelling reason to use the latest version anyway.

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Post by declnz » Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 10:10 AM UTC

amlib wrote: post #52

brnt wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, the closest thing in media library regard is Quodlibet, and its under active development.

I would agree with that, and indeed I used it for many years, were it not for it's performance. It's just atrocious under a big library. I would constantly get assaulted with what I could only assume were garbage collection pauses, the interface would constantly freeze in the most inopportune times. It also had a pretty silly bug that went unfixed the entire time I used it where it would (rarely, triggered while movi…

What kind of storage was that library on? We have users with 100, 150k files who are largely happy.

If you can replicate this on a new release (4.4.0 was out recently), please file a bug! [1]

[1] https://github.com/quodlibet/quodlibet/issues

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Post by declnz » Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 10:15 AM UTC

butz wrote: post #21

benrbray wrote: post #11

How is the tagging system in DeaDBeef? My music library has grown exponentially in the past year or so, due to boredom during covid, and I've come to the conclusion that playlists (as in, static lists of music files that you need to update manually) are functionally useless for large libraries. What I've been looking for, but so far haven't been able to find, is a system that creates playlists from queries to my musi…

I vaguely remember one music player having support for SQL queries for playlist building, seemed novel at the time, but now I cannot find the name of it.

I added a PoC for this as an alternative query language for Quod Libet [1] but never got enough time to develop fully. Even supported things like:

artist = /The \w+/ AND album = "Greatest Hits" ORDER BY DATE LIMIT 100 MB

[1] https://github.com/quodlibet/quodlibet/issues/821

Re: DeaDBeeF – A modular audio player for Unix-like systems

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Post by 867-5309 » Sun, Apr 04, 2021, 11:07 AM UTC

pedrogpimenta wrote: post #33

867-5309 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

obscure as in cannot be found online torrents of such material are non-existent, dead or unreliable at best, and almost never lossless the point being to avoid being constantly let down by audio streaming providers but safe to say the point was missed on this occasion

Yes but if you can't find it online, then it's also not on Spotify. So you still have to do that. It's not an option so we don't get the point you're making.

you stated the point - you would have to do all that because it's not on