Do you have a demo video or demo I can try before signing up?
Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
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Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#72Do you have a demo video or demo I can try before signing up?
Apart from the little video on the landing page, I made a voiced over demo video for our launch on product hunt the other day that shows off a lot of the core stuff: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/kitemaker-2
Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#73Congrats on the launch. However, what is it with these sites today. With a default content blocker you hamburger menu does not work on mobile (Safari on iOS with Firefox Content Blocker). So I can‘t tell, but do you offer an on-premise solution?
We’ll checkout out our webflow setup to see if there’s anything we can do there to prevent the burger menu from getting messed up. Thanks for the tip.
We don’t offer on prem currently but there’s a discussion a few comment threads up.
Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#74I’ve switched my team over to Linear (https://linear.app), which is definitely a “faster Jira alternative built for remote teams” as well.
I’m sure you’re aware of Linear, how do you differentiate yourself? I’d be really interested to know. Huge congrats on the launch!
Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#75You're selling yourself as a fast alternative to Jira. There's already an established company doing that ( https://clubhouse.io/ ). They also offer a free plan for teams of up to 10 users. You're obviously in business to make money, so good that you're focused on selling your product, but why would someone pay for Kitemaker rather than use Clubhouse for free? Edit: Yes, Kitemaker has a free plan, but it looks quite l…
Comparing Kitemaker to Clubhouse write may may get a bit further. I found Kitemaker after I realized the tight relationship between epics and documentation, and was stunned at how difficult it was to find a PM tool focused on fusing them. Clubhouse write seemed to be headed that direction, but was in beta forever and details were sparse. I began researching on my own to see if it would be worth building myself, stumbled upon Kitemaker (impressive) and ultimately used Notion instead (which is so-so for the purpose).
A bit tangential, but I was surprised at how similar Kitemakers offering _sounded_ to Linear (https://linear.app/).
Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your page resonates, there's probably something wrong with your monitor. If you want engineers to be interested in your product, stick with concise and accurate descriptions, stay away from vague and meaningless business buzzwords and buzzphrases.
That's fair enough. The language that's there originally came from the fact that we see many teams where engineers are left out of the loop when it comes to the early stages of planning initiatives/features. One of the benefits teams have told us they get from Kitemaker is getting the whole team involved earlier, rather than PMs doing too much of the planning themselves and then just splitting tasks out to engineers.…
Thanks for the response! Take my opinion with a grain of salt, I'm quite curmudgeonly when it comes to marketing speak. I just know that, if I were looking for a product like yours, I would move on with my search as soon as I encountered more vacuous language than descriptive language; then would probably come back to it when I encountered the same problem with every other product page.
Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#77You're selling yourself as a fast alternative to Jira. There's already an established company doing that ( https://clubhouse.io/ ). They also offer a free plan for teams of up to 10 users. You're obviously in business to make money, so good that you're focused on selling your product, but why would someone pay for Kitemaker rather than use Clubhouse for free? Edit: Yes, Kitemaker has a free plan, but it looks quite l…
Google "alternatives to Jira" and there are hundreds of articles with titles like "33 Best Jira Alternatives". It's a massively crowded market. I thought clubhouse was that audio chat thing, but it seems they don't own an actual domain name for their company.
It is crowded but most aren't actually different in the way people need (ex: Asana). I think its still worthwhile to compare to Jira, because for many teams JIRA is either all they know or the de facto standard. Clubhouse is a better JIRA for many teams (simplified, good at multi-team project management) but Kitemaker is (IMHO) targeting more of a simplified JIRA + Confluence, which is (again, IMHO) ripe for exploration.
Re: Launch HN: Kitemaker (YC W21) – Fast alternative to Jira, built for remote teams
#78I’ve switched my team over to Linear ( https://linear.app ), which is definitely a “faster Jira alternative built for remote teams” as well. I’m sure you’re aware of Linear, how do you differentiate yourself? I’d be really interested to know. Huge congrats on the launch!
Thanks!
We're very aware of them, tried to capture it a bit here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26542607
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#79Exciting to see alternatives popping up.
I’d be curious to know the feature parity in percentage with Jira features. Jira is for better and worse.. deep and complex to handle a lot of depth and complexity.
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#80Congrats on the launch! Some feedback from a potential customer: The first thing I read on your homepage is: "A faster and more engaging way to empower your team." This means absolutely nothing to me - I have no idea what your product does. Something like "Faster issue tracking for remote teams." would be better. Hope this helps!
I've seen 2 different opinions from people when it comes to the copy. 1st is to tell what value you provide to your customers (Mario analogy https://twitter.com/GorvGoyl/status/1334116488349827072 ). or 2nd is to tell what exactly your product does (your audience will figure out value on their own).
It might differ based on the target audience. Enterprise messaging can be quite different than SMB, or even for VCs