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JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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AMOLED! Consistent with recent reports of a new 7" AMOLED Switch, and AMOLED becoming cheap. Linux is not as tuned for battery life as android, but they claim 10 hours from their 8Ah. Believable. 11", 6.7mm, 500g, 8 core ARM (model not specified; should be the 7x line). Bet it will cost far more than a comparable Android tablet (which can run termux).

Android is tuned for battery life, but still gets annihilated when 100 background processes smash it.

Linux... epoll, and peace.

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Assuming you don't consider something running the linux kernel to be linux (ahem, android) >It is the World’s FIRST Consumer-level Linux Tablet. ExoPC 2.0 came out in 2010, running MeeGo, which was a linux tablet that shipped with an OS maintained and hosted by the Linux Foundation. >It is the FIRST Tablet powered by JingOS – the World’s FIRST Linux Tablet OS. MeeGo, MaeMo, and the associated tablet OSes from that er…

I worked on this [1] Linux tablet 20 years ago, and we had working versions, but it doesn't really count as they weren't put into mass production. I don't know how many were built in the end (I left to co-found a webmail service). Sometimes it's depressing how long it takes for something to actually come to fruition. The screenshots in [1] are our custom UI based on NanoX [2], and an Opera port for the web browser screenshot (it worked). I wanted a production version for years after I left...

[1] https://linuxdevices.org/freepad-norways-alternative-to-swed...

[2] https://github.com/ghaerr/microwindows

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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I am unconvinced. First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork. Second, even if you don't count Android, there's still Ubuntu Mobile, and PostmarketOS, and Sailfish, and Mobian, and others, all of which existed before this as far as I can tell. Third, this website is drowning in rough marketing speak, with little substance. I ca…

> First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork. Meh, and the integrated Google spyware baked in? (because most Android is not LineageOS out there anyway), so there's a dire need for alternatives anyway. There is also no way for end users to update their Android devices, so you end up with something disposable the day you purchas…

There is definitely a need for alternatives.

My issue is they acted like this is something groundbreaking and unheard of, while what they've shown is either something that's comparable to other options in the space (Their software looks like branded Plasma Mobile), or vaporware (I won't trust them to deliver hardware, until they actually do.)

Edit: My other issues are located at the bottom of this page. This company has lost any hope I had for it.

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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I am unconvinced. First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork. Second, even if you don't count Android, there's still Ubuntu Mobile, and PostmarketOS, and Sailfish, and Mobian, and others, all of which existed before this as far as I can tell. Third, this website is drowning in rough marketing speak, with little substance. I ca…

> First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork. Android can be hacked into a passable system, but notice that termux is no longer in the Play store because of locked down permissions and expects further breakage from upcoming OS changes. On the other hand, completely agreed that there are good options available and inbound, so u…

I'm no fan of Android to be clear. My standard install these days is a custom rom if possible, and then only using F-Droid as a repo.

I want more options, I'm just unconvinced this is it.

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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I am unconvinced. First of all, Android is Linux based, and not an unpleasant userland if you install Termux and use LineageOS or some other custom fork. Second, even if you don't count Android, there's still Ubuntu Mobile, and PostmarketOS, and Sailfish, and Mobian, and others, all of which existed before this as far as I can tell. Third, this website is drowning in rough marketing speak, with little substance. I ca…

> maybe get something to show first next time. Well, you can download and install right now[1][2] (see "Download" in the nav bar), although the download link is currently gated by an email collection form which is somewhat unfortunate. (They do send you an .iso download link, yes I verified.) So saying they don't have something to show is inaccurate and misleading. Maybe you meant something groundbreaking to show? Ed…

I was talking about hardware, their software looks fine enough, though I honestly don't see a reason to use it over something else running Plasma mobile, a custom configured Plasma install, or LineageOS/similar.

Unless they've got access to more closed source drivers, the number of devices targetable with this is going to be comparable anyways.

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like a SSD doesn't actually contain a spinning disk, like hard disk drives and floppy disks before it :D Apple labels this as "Capacity" (iOS) and "Storage" (Mac) which are maybe better terms.

Solid-State Drive doesn't mention disks.

Hard drives are named that way because they are devices that spin (drive) solid disks. Similarly a floppy drive is the device spinning the floppy.

You could argue that the solid state drive "drives" things in the sense of "control", or analogous to how a microcontroller drives its pins. But more likely it's named that way because "drive" has become synonymous with storage, as in "C-Drive".

Re: JingPad A1 – Consumer-level Linux Tablet

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Assuming you don't consider something running the linux kernel to be linux (ahem, android) >It is the World’s FIRST Consumer-level Linux Tablet. ExoPC 2.0 came out in 2010, running MeeGo, which was a linux tablet that shipped with an OS maintained and hosted by the Linux Foundation. >It is the FIRST Tablet powered by JingOS – the World’s FIRST Linux Tablet OS. MeeGo, MaeMo, and the associated tablet OSes from that er…

> MeeGo, MaeMo, and the associated tablet OSes from that era shipped over a decade ago. To be fair there was no touch OS then - it was mostly stylus driven at the time. I don't think any of them had implemented multi-touch gestures for example, but please correct me if I am wrong.

Maemo did not, since its primary devices all used resistive touchscreens without multitouch support.

Meego had multi-touch support, though it was only used at an application level (e.g. pinch to zoom in browser, maps, gallery etc).

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