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I was going to post a snarky comment about how the Transformer can't compete with the iPad because its not actually shipping yet, blah blah, but I did a search first and found out that it shipped over a month ago. Which can only mean that ASUS really botched the PR on this one. Neither Engadget nor Gizmodo (arguably the two largest gadget sites) have reviewed it, but the few reviews I did find were generally positive…
Engadget reviewed the UK edition of the Transformer in April and seemed to generally like it. http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-...
HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
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Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#72If webOS fails, I think its legacy will be being too ahead of its time twice- one for being a neat smartphone OS back in 2009 with several features that both the iPhone and Android lacked (card system for multitasking, development platform based on web programming languages), and second for getting into the multi-device platform game prior to OS X Lion and Windows 8 (the webOS will run on everything from desktops to…
(1) they launched on Sprint. Sprint is a distant 3rd now.
(2) they didn't reach Verizon in time.
They had this lovely window of time before Verizon launched the first Droid phone. Verizon users were hungry for a smartphone. Droid got their first and filled the niche.
It's easy to armchair quarterback but, after trying the Pre on Sprint, I kept wishing for them to get a faster Pre on Verizon before Android arrived.
Too little, too late.
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#73Just once, I'd like to hear an electronics developer, in HP/Palm's situation, humbly concede, "We realize that we're entering a crowded market. We realize that we're entering late. However, our strategy is simple: ply the development community with incentives which, over time, should help us flesh out our platform into an engaging and useful product." I've read little but boasting from HP about the new round of WebOS…
I could care less about talk in any case. I've been following Windows Phone 7 as of late and it seems that they've made it easy to program for the platform by offering development tools, samples, and instruction. There is scant documentation or examples for Enyo. They changed app dev frameworks on all of their existing developers from Mojo to Enyo. That can't help either. I think they have a near Herculean task in tr…
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#74They are also offering free TouchPads to webOS developers who can demonstrate a working TouchPad app that they intend to submit to the App Catalog. Details on their blog: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/05/show-us-your-app-at-w...
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#75If webOS fails, I think its legacy will be being too ahead of its time twice- one for being a neat smartphone OS back in 2009 with several features that both the iPhone and Android lacked (card system for multitasking, development platform based on web programming languages), and second for getting into the multi-device platform game prior to OS X Lion and Windows 8 (the webOS will run on everything from desktops to…
Too ahead of it's time? I'm pretty sure it's just that they were too late to market. (1) they launched on Sprint. Sprint is a distant 3rd now. (2) they didn't reach Verizon in time. They had this lovely window of time before Verizon launched the first Droid phone. Verizon users were hungry for a smartphone. Droid got their first and filled the niche. It's easy to armchair quarterback but, after trying the Pre on Spri…
1. Certain features like cards, a good notification system, and requiring only HTML/CSS/JS knowledge to develop for, back in 2009
2. Currently being the only(?) mobile OS out that is designed to be also run on non-tablet/smartphone systems.
So it boils down to webOS being ahead of its time on some technical features, while marketed poorly and thus causing it to miss the boat.
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
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Could HP not just sell below cost for a while to grab some market share? Instead of $100 million in marketing, drop the price by $100 and sell a million devices. It's a more direct benefit.
It's not as easy as you'd think to sell a $399 tablet with no marketing budget. See: The surprise in this thread being expressed that Asus' tablet has been available for sale for months.
Is this in part due to the plethora of crappy Android tablets that came out in the last year?
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I understand the fact about Apple's buying power. But when someone is trying to compete with an established product, you gotta offer something more at some price less to get people to even look at it! It's going to be interesting to see how the HP Touchpad & Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 do in the next few months. However, the real competition will start when Amazon jumps into the market with their rumored Kal-El tablets l…
The dollars don't matter so much. eBay matters is that you are seen providing better value (which may indue cost). Unfortunately, with the WWDC announcements, it really doesn't look like HP has a better value. They need something more to compete if they don't want it to be a race to the bottom with Chinese, Taiwanese, and South Korean vendors.
For as long as the MS/Windows ecosystem is a going concern, a sufficiently well executed non-Apple tablet will have a market in those who are anti-Apple.
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#78I think HP's marketing is wrong, they shouldn't be touting the WebOS operating system so much because ordinary people don't care. The operating system is irrelevant in this type of device. In fact, I think something along the lines of Google's ChromeOS is the right operating system for a tablet -- an ultralight web-browsing only device with cloud-connected filesystem for downloads/photos/movies etc. It's the only typ…
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#79It's a Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-CPU APQ8060 1.2GHz But they don't mention RAM or cpu. It runs flash, but doesn't mention java (so it probably doesn't).
> But they don't mention RAM or cpu. How's saying that it's 1.2 ghz cpu is not mentioning cpu? As for RAM, Wikipedia page says it'll have 1 gb.
Re: HP TouchPad: Shipping July 1
#80Well it looks like they have already done something better than all their non-Apple competitors - instead of rushing it out half finished they seem to have waited until it's done. Given the biggest complaint about webos on the phone was the power of the processor this stands a good chance of being a nice product. fingers crossed for them (I'm unlikely to give up my iPad given iCloud now but there really should be a d…
That's about the most positive spin I think you can put on being horribly late to market. But do you have evidence that they actually "waited until it was done" and didn't just rush to market also, just later because they started even further behind?