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Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Only problem with this is I can't figure out how to spend all the money generated by the tax. Obviously it should be used at a technology or process to reduce carbon from the atmosphere, but I don't think that's what governments are going to decide to do. Add a new tax, waste most of it. Or worse, use it to fund societally harmful things. That's what the history shows.

Take the money, pile it all up and directly give it back to the citizens, where every citizen gets the same amount of money. Effect: households will have the same amount of money on average, but people will be nudged to substitute their carbon-intensive lifestyle by greener alternatives. (or, in economic terms, there is no income effect, only a substitution effect). You're also indirectly taking money from big corpor…

Doesn’t this motivate people to not reduce total carbon use? It would lower the dividend unless the green energy is cheap enough to balance it out.

And if the green energy is that cheap (which actually it seems like it is) then we don’t need the dividend.

Btw, carbon emissions in the US at least typically aren’t done by “corporations” but rather poor land use decisions causing long commutes and things like that. Buying gas from a corporation may cause them to dig it out of the ground, but you’re the one who told them to do it.

The “climate change is caused by 100 corporations” thing is especially wrong since it comes from a misreading of a list of emitters that has things like Saudi Aramco and “the Chinese government” as corporations.

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Is electricity really that cheap in the USA? The cheapest price I've found for my city here in Germany is like 0,24 EUR. And this is already including a new customer discount and cashback. Not even guaranteed green energy... 0,24 EUR is currently ~0,29 USD. That's 0,29 USD for my cheapest price against your most expensive price with 0,20 USD.

See https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/13020/umfrage... for a comparison of prices around the world. Germany is at the top.

> stat

paywalled, any open source for this data?

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Is electricity really that cheap in the USA? The cheapest price I've found for my city here in Germany is like 0,24 EUR. And this is already including a new customer discount and cashback. Not even guaranteed green energy... 0,24 EUR is currently ~0,29 USD. That's 0,29 USD for my cheapest price against your most expensive price with 0,20 USD.

We pay about $0.10 in British Columbia, Canada. There is a $0.20 daily base rate and over a certain amount it steps up to $0.14. It’s 95% hydro electric so it’s green too. https://app.bchydro.com/accounts-billing/rates-energy-use/el...

hydro is really not that green: salmons are losing their spawning runs for an example in your area. Also not renewable, because dams get filled with sediment and lose capacity over time.

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Cool experiment. But I don't recommend getting into Ethereum mining now, as the network is on the verge of switching to Proof of Stake as part of the migration to Ethereum 2.0.

Meh, it hasn’t switched yet, there’s still mining to be done.

I made ~$100 in the past month (stopped during the cold snap/storm here) on my 3080 mining ETH. Of course, I was getting closer to 90Mh/s so slightly more viable.

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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See https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/13020/umfrage... for a comparison of prices around the world. Germany is at the top.

> stat paywalled, any open source for this data?

Here is another one: https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Germany/electricity_price...

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Cool experiment. But I don't recommend getting into Ethereum mining now, as the network is on the verge of switching to Proof of Stake as part of the migration to Ethereum 2.0.

Meh, it hasn’t switched yet, there’s still mining to be done. I made ~$100 in the past month (stopped during the cold snap/storm here) on my 3080 mining ETH. Of course, I was getting closer to 90Mh/s so slightly more viable.

Sure, if you already have a mining rig, by all means keep mining!

But I personally wouldn't make a big investment on it if I was only getting started now.

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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Is electricity really that cheap in the USA? The cheapest price I've found for my city here in Germany is like 0,24 EUR. And this is already including a new customer discount and cashback. Not even guaranteed green energy... 0,24 EUR is currently ~0,29 USD. That's 0,29 USD for my cheapest price against your most expensive price with 0,20 USD.

Where I live (southeastern US) it's $0.089/kWh. There's additional taxes on it that make it functionally closer to $0.10. But yeah, fairly cheap. Which is a good thing because we have electric heat and it's been a very cold month. I'm expecting an about $350 bill.

It is also a bad thing because it makes it reasonable to live in houses that are not properly insulated and just run the air heater on full blast all winter, like I did when I was living in the US. In Denmark the kWh price is around 0.5$ (the wast majority of that is taxes), and the energy efficiency of the house is a key data point in any house purchase and is always listed next to the price.

Re: Mining Ethereum on M1 Mac GPU

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> Is it worth it? > Um. Not really. At current Ethereum prices (2021-02-26), it generates $0.14 of profit per day. It’s still a profit, but very miniscule. The real question is if it makes more money than it costs in electricity. Apple claims it uses 39 W max. That adds up to 0.936 kWh of electricity per day, which we can approximate at 1 kWh. Electricity prices range from ~4¢ to ~20¢ per kWh in the USA, which means…

>The real question is if it makes more money than it costs in electricity. profit implies that costs are taken into account. If I plug 2 MH/s, 30W, $0.1/kWh into a mining calculator I get a profit of 11 cents per day against 18 cents of revenue.

all ethereum mining calculators are dead wrong.

in the assumptions they all tell you "2 ethereum per block", Ethereum has been averaging 5-7 ether per block for the past year. hit like 13 ether per block just the other day.

so just multiply by 3, or like 7, up to you

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