I've used Shopify a few times and it's clear they're trying to be an Apple for e e-commerce. Slick and easy set up with strong lock in and high fees. As a result, I'll advise clients to use Shopify for a POC perhaps but then to put money aside to build their own system when they gain some traction. And I'm starting to wonder if there's a market for someone to build the Android equivalent of Shopify because this pisse…
Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
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Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#72Ok, ok I get it, it's not a physical product but still people get paid to work on it and develop it, and there are income taxes and all that, but really 20-30%?!?!
If you sell a product chances are your profit margin is 20-30% and that it's good, but here in software we have to do a cut for 20-30%, well again 10% it's not going to buy all the fancy tech and spaces in expensive parts of the world.
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#73I've used Shopify a few times and it's clear they're trying to be an Apple for e e-commerce. Slick and easy set up with strong lock in and high fees. As a result, I'll advise clients to use Shopify for a POC perhaps but then to put money aside to build their own system when they gain some traction. And I'm starting to wonder if there's a market for someone to build the Android equivalent of Shopify because this pisse…
What do you recommend instead?
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because they're paying for a platform to deliver services and the platform then tries to dictate how they run their business. It's questionable at best and should perhaps be illegal.
No, you've misunderstood the situation here. OP is not "paying for a platform" on Shopify -- they are not a customer of Shopify running a store. OP is a Shopify partner offering a service to Shopify's clients, through Shopify's own web site, and is expected to pay Shopify a cut of their profits in exchange for being featured this way. This is a standard practice for this type of partnership.
A cut of the profits would be really nice actually. A cut of revenue is a totally different beast.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#75What is a good alternative to Shopify for a small webstore? I don't want to pay a 20% cut.
If you know a bit of coding I would advise to use SpreeCommerce. I used it very succesfully in the past.
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#76Not a surprising practice, but: > Pretty ironic too when you've got Shopify's CEO tweeting about the unfair 30% cut Apple wants: https://twitter.com/tobi/status/1362411841943711744 That's pretty hypocritical
I mean, Tim Cook wants his cake and the Shopify CEO wants his cake too, so the hippocracy is expected.
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#77Why is it ok in software to pay a 20% - 30% commission? Imagine if your car dealer would ask an extra 30% Ok, ok I get it, it's not a physical product but still people get paid to work on it and develop it, and there are income taxes and all that, but really 20-30%?!?! If you sell a product chances are your profit margin is 20-30% and that it's good, but here in software we have to do a cut for 20-30%, well again 10%…
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
At this point I'd be willing to try a hippocracy.
The rule of hippos? [Edit] Thanks for clueing me up.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#79I've used Shopify a few times and it's clear they're trying to be an Apple for e e-commerce. Slick and easy set up with strong lock in and high fees. As a result, I'll advise clients to use Shopify for a POC perhaps but then to put money aside to build their own system when they gain some traction. And I'm starting to wonder if there's a market for someone to build the Android equivalent of Shopify because this pisse…
They need to start paying attention to core web vitals stat.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#80Basically if you want Shopify App Store customers, you have to give 20% to Shopify, but you still have option of acquiring users yourself through your site without app store.
Is it fair? Maybe not, but that's a deal. Apple users on the other hand don't have option of installing apps without app store, so comparison is not valid.