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Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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I've used Shopify a few times and it's clear they're trying to be an Apple for e e-commerce. Slick and easy set up with strong lock in and high fees. As a result, I'll advise clients to use Shopify for a POC perhaps but then to put money aside to build their own system when they gain some traction. And I'm starting to wonder if there's a market for someone to build the Android equivalent of Shopify because this pisse…

What do you recommend instead?

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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Why is it ok in software to pay a 20% - 30% commission? Imagine if your car dealer would ask an extra 30%

Ok, ok I get it, it's not a physical product but still people get paid to work on it and develop it, and there are income taxes and all that, but really 20-30%?!?!

If you sell a product chances are your profit margin is 20-30% and that it's good, but here in software we have to do a cut for 20-30%, well again 10% it's not going to buy all the fancy tech and spaces in expensive parts of the world.

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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post #71
post #59

I've used Shopify a few times and it's clear they're trying to be an Apple for e e-commerce. Slick and easy set up with strong lock in and high fees. As a result, I'll advise clients to use Shopify for a POC perhaps but then to put money aside to build their own system when they gain some traction. And I'm starting to wonder if there's a market for someone to build the Android equivalent of Shopify because this pisse…

What do you recommend instead?

Commerce Layer has a business model with no revenue sharing: https://commercelayer.io/

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they're paying for a platform to deliver services and the platform then tries to dictate how they run their business. It's questionable at best and should perhaps be illegal.

No, you've misunderstood the situation here. OP is not "paying for a platform" on Shopify -- they are not a customer of Shopify running a store. OP is a Shopify partner offering a service to Shopify's clients, through Shopify's own web site, and is expected to pay Shopify a cut of their profits in exchange for being featured this way. This is a standard practice for this type of partnership.

> expected to pay Shopify a cut of their profits

A cut of the profits would be really nice actually. A cut of revenue is a totally different beast.

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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What is a good alternative to Shopify for a small webstore? I don't want to pay a 20% cut.

If you know a bit of coding I would advise to use SpreeCommerce. I used it very succesfully in the past.

I've been really enjoying SpreeCommerce (based on Rails). You can get away with very little coding if you're happy with the current feature set (which really covers all the basics and then some) and your Payment Gateway of choice is supported by them already or within the ActiveMerchant Payment Gateway options. And then writing your own Payment Gateway integration (like for offsite payments) is really easy too.

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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Not a surprising practice, but: > Pretty ironic too when you've got Shopify's CEO tweeting about the unfair 30% cut Apple wants: https://twitter.com/tobi/status/1362411841943711744 That's pretty hypocritical

I mean, Tim Cook wants his cake and the Shopify CEO wants his cake too, so the hippocracy is expected.

The cake is a lie.

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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post #72

Why is it ok in software to pay a 20% - 30% commission? Imagine if your car dealer would ask an extra 30% Ok, ok I get it, it's not a physical product but still people get paid to work on it and develop it, and there are income taxes and all that, but really 20-30%?!?! If you sell a product chances are your profit margin is 20-30% and that it's good, but here in software we have to do a cut for 20-30%, well again 10%…

If your profit margin on a software product is only 30% you have absolutely no business being in business.

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I'd be willing to try a hippocracy.

The rule of hippos? [Edit] Thanks for clueing me up.

so it looks like a voyage to the land of the houyhnhnms is in order http://4umi.com/swift/gulliver/houyhnhnm/

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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post #59

I've used Shopify a few times and it's clear they're trying to be an Apple for e e-commerce. Slick and easy set up with strong lock in and high fees. As a result, I'll advise clients to use Shopify for a POC perhaps but then to put money aside to build their own system when they gain some traction. And I'm starting to wonder if there's a market for someone to build the Android equivalent of Shopify because this pisse…

If Shopify want to do that they had better up their game other wise larger brands will just walk.

They need to start paying attention to core web vitals stat.

Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store

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You have to use Shopify Billing for shops that installed your app through app store, but you can have Stripe for apps that installed your app directly through your site for example, that's how business I'm working for is doing.

Basically if you want Shopify App Store customers, you have to give 20% to Shopify, but you still have option of acquiring users yourself through your site without app store.

Is it fair? Maybe not, but that's a deal. Apple users on the other hand don't have option of installing apps without app store, so comparison is not valid.

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