https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211064098-Log-T... > It’s easy to bill your time using the Upwork desktop app. ... > When you have logging turned on, the app takes random screen captures six times per hour—once per 10-minute billing segment. Anything visible on your screen will display in your Work Diary, but you have the option, in Settings, to choose whether the screen captures your entire desktop or o…
What's next, brainwave scanners that only pay you for hours that has atleast 20% gamma wavelength.
excellent. fiverr is nothing but trash and upwork only has tops 25/hour jobs in usa. need a legit gig site.
> upwork only has tops 25/hour jobs in usa Honest question, but for IT stuff, why would it have stuff over $25/hour? It's going to be remote work, anyway, so there will be someone, somewhere, in a country with a lower cost of living, that will work for that money or even less. It's only normal that Americans won't be able to compete, over time :-)
Well you have to compete on skill, niche and reputation. High skill workers in poor countries still can make $$$ online if they have the appropriate skills and especially if somewhat specialized. Doubly so if they have a strong reputation for doing a good job.
I use a client like this for new freelancers/employees that are working full time or larger jobs. It is intrusive but 100% is needed for some people or they take the piss. I'm too busy to follow their workload and sit there estimating times of jobs match hours. I check it one a week for ~10min to see hours logged per day and quick random to check its not loads of time wasting. It feels intrusive but there is little d…
> little difference than people walking past someone in an open plan office > in its worse its little different from having a micro manager in a on-site office experience That itself is a pretty horrible thing, and I'm glad I don't have to work for people like you.
Yes, it sounds like someone is being paid as a "micro-manager" to check whether others are working. It is very dismissive towards the other employees, and it is very troubling to pay someone at a management level to do such work. Someone whose job only consists in checking over the shoulders of the people doing the actual work should be paid less, not more, than them.
* "If any kind of monitoring system is put in place, it needs to be proportionate to the objective and introduced in accordance with Directive 90/270 on visual display units;"
Normally I would scoff at this, but having had to physically chase down customers before over bounced checks, I could really get behind something unreturnable like cryptocurrency.
Of course, people on the receiving end of a payment love un-reversible payments. The same is not so true for people who are sending said payment and expecting that work gets done.
If only someone would make a gig marketplace website that could act as an escrow, collecting money upfront and distributing once the work is done.
Hopefully cryptocurrency payments is an option. ZK-Rollups now enable Visa scale throughput for payments on Ethereum so crypto is primed for widespread usage. Linkedin could stick with USDC, which is an FDIC insured USD-backed ERC20 token, to avoid the volatility associated with crypto-assets, while providing a more seamless globally accessible alternative to the legacy banking/payments system. EDIT: privacy is still…
Normally I would scoff at this, but having had to physically chase down customers before over bounced checks, I could really get behind something unreturnable like cryptocurrency.
> $100/hour, so it’s definitely not just for low-end stuff. Maybe not low-end, but that's still probably the lower end of mid-end.
On a global marketplace? $100/hour is a ridiculously good rate for a large % of workers. Maybe not in SF or Tech Hubs but for a graphics designer in India, or Eastern Europe?
High-end, by definition, is not a large percentage of workers. High end is the workers on the high end of the compensation scale.
Those type of people arent going to be on a site like upwork, but they make a hell of a lot more than $100/hr.
How about assessing their work and thats that. Did they finish the tasks on time? Great, no need to snoop on them. Are they bad at the job then maybe try another person. I personally work in spurts and when im active I run through the work very fast then I need lighter tasks to put the work in the back of my head. Im still working on it even if looks like in not. It isn’t anybody’s business how I use my time as long…
> How about assessing their work and thats that. That’s not so simple with time and materials billing. If somethings taking too long to deliver or is being delivered to a low standard, it could easily be explained by having to deal with unplanned problems (which could also be entirely the clients fault), or it could just as easily be a contractor being slow and/or useless. I’ve worked as a contractor for quite a long…
It seems like you're trying to shield yourself from "complete dead weight contractors" which should be easy enough to spot. Certainly don't need a dystopian monitoring system to pluck up their monitors every 10 minutes, and have months of research on trailing data to come to the conclusion that a contractor is dead weight.
I use a client like this for new freelancers/employees that are working full time or larger jobs. It is intrusive but 100% is needed for some people or they take the piss. I'm too busy to follow their workload and sit there estimating times of jobs match hours. I check it one a week for ~10min to see hours logged per day and quick random to check its not loads of time wasting. It feels intrusive but there is little d…
How about assessing their work and thats that. Did they finish the tasks on time? Great, no need to snoop on them. Are they bad at the job then maybe try another person. I personally work in spurts and when im active I run through the work very fast then I need lighter tasks to put the work in the back of my head. Im still working on it even if looks like in not. It isn’t anybody’s business how I use my time as long…
Totally agree.
What is the value of micromanagement?
Just set expected result and output and when this should be met by.
As far as I know, monitoring like this is illegal everywhere in Europe
Source? There are products especially for europe that do monitoring like this.
A lot of stuff is more or less illegal. Especially in employment, as long as nobody sues, nobody cares. And which freelancer would sue? Or which employee, as far as that's concerned?
And even if, worst case is a small fine for the employer. Unfortunately.