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Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#71
This article has several inaccuracies

1) "blockchain inventor David Chaum"

Chaum developed methods to do blinded ecash, there's nothing "blockchain" about a central database checking blinded signatures for double spends.

D. Bayer, S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta, and N. Szabo were working on methods of how to distribute property titles and timestamp data to reduce trust requirements of the data through out time.

Chaum's design never solved the problem of how to create bits that people can inherently reason about how much they trust them as money/scarcity. He was ardent about turning fiat currencies into digital tokens -- drastically different than making bits into money.

2) Does it make much sense for Bitcoin's author to be, as the article claims, highly experienced with asymmetric cryptography but also soliciting advice from "real cryptographers" on the cryptography mailing list? Sassaman's archived site doesn't show much cryptography work (but much cypherpunk work)

3) "Len joined Network Associates to help develop the PGP encryption central to Bitcoin"

The curves used in bitcoin's -- and very limited amount of -- cryptography aren't used in PGP.

4) "the remailer technology that was a precursor to Bitcoin."

Much of this article seems to be straining to make connections. Remailers don't have anything to do with Bitcoin. If anything remailers are the precursors to Tor / i2P. Identification of bitcoin nodes in the early version of bitcoin code was as shockingly easy as... joining an IRC channel.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#72

My money (er, bitcoin) is on Hal Finney. I knew Hal from occupying the dorm room next to mine at Caltech. Being Satoshi is just the kind of elaborate prank Hal would have loved. Besides, I've never met anyone as smart as Hal, and I've met a lot of smart people. In his last interview (when he could no longer speak) he was asked if he was Satoshi, and he just grinned. As for where the missing bitcoins are, my bitcoin i…

Please take a look at Bitcoin 0.1 code and at Hal Finney RPOW code.

Hal Finney's RPOW - professional UNIX-style C code, with code organized into client/server/common, clearly separated functions, etc.

Bitcoin 0.1: Win32 GUI C++ code, no separation between core and GUI. No CLI, no RPC API, only Windows GUI. No directories, just a bunch of files.

Do you think Hal Finney would unlearn everything he knew about code organization to develop his Magnum Opus? Something which should become world currency, runs only on Windows and cannot be automated?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

#73
post #25

Pretty sure Len thought Bitcoin was a profound abortion of an idea: https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/77358901774917632 > Right; why would they [mention Bitcoin in the cypherpunk panel on digital currencies], though? Bitcoin pretty much fails as a cypherpunk protocol. https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/81121594373709825 > That only works if you want to leave the inflated value of Bitcoin on the table; otherw…

> whoever wrote Bitcoin was a Windows programmer, though not an incompetent one.

It's worth pointing out that code of the first version was organized in a ridiculous way, even pro Windows programmers do not dump everything into one directory. So a widespread opinion is that it was written by an amateur without professional programming experience, albeit extremely bright, as organization aside, code worked very well.

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