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Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by dmje »

iFreilicht wrote: post #44
AlecSchueler wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This why I personally gave up RSS. I used to enjoy reading things in my RSS reader where I could set things up to be clear to me. Once they started providing only links back to the WWW browser where everything was hard to read I gave up and now I just suffer reading in the WWW browser and frankly don't read nearly half as much online content as a result.

Aren't there RSS-readers that offer something like the reader-mode you get on web-browsers?

Yeh, Reeder on mac supports this I think

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by justusthane »

susam wrote: post #67
xnx wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you identify Feedly subscribers? Isn't there a single request from Feedly that it uses for all of its users?

Here is what I see in my access logs: [30/Jan/2021:12:58:03 +0000] "GET /blog/rss.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 22757 "-" "Feedly/1.0 (+http://www.feedly.com/fetcher.html; 91 subscribers; like FeedFetcher-Google)" [31/Jan/2021:12:58:04 +0000] "GET /blog/rss.xml HTTP/1.1" 200 22757 "-" "Feedly/1.0 (+http://www.feedly.com/fetcher.html; 91 subscribers; like FeedFetcher-Google)" [01/Feb/2021:12:58:13 +0000] "GET /blog/rss.xml HTTP/1…

So feedly tells you how many subscribers they have when they hit your feed. That's neat of them.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by themodelplumber »

djhworld wrote: post #38

I've mentioned this on HN before, one pattern I've noticed is a lot of sites tend to truncate their RSS feed so you have to click through to see the full article etc. This is mostly OK but kinda frustrating, as in the before-covid times I used to ride the London Underground a lot where no celluar signal is available in the tunnels - so my offline RSS reader would be useless. So I wrote a little web service accepts an…

I have used both of those methods when publishing... I do hesitate on the full article approach, but I don't run ads. (And to be clear, I do provide a whole-article feed)

One thing I don't like about the whole article RSS is that I get requests to narrate my whole website or blog experience, in addition to the normal writing about stuff.

In effect the full-article RSS audience has its own experiential needs, which include "tell me about what you added to the non-blog sections, tell me about the new tools in the sidebar, or the new article footer format, or even hey I never heard about the new design," and so on. Sometimes I also alter the CSS for a single post, when it makes sense.

Some of this narration is just expected if your main format is traditional, plain blog. But personally my blogs tend to evolve and incorporate other stuff. And for sites with even more of an experiential aspect than my own, I can see why RSS could drive the publishers a bit mad, increased exposure or no.

Because of this experience, personally I would rather try reading via a page-download tool or format, even automated w3m or something, and see if that's an improvement. You'd get the full article in plain text, but you'd also get some of the other stuff around the site, including links which you may even be able to mark for later download.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by armoredkitten »

I have tried feed readers on and off over the years, and never really stuck with it. It just felt like too much coming in with no rest. (This was largely before social media...now that sentiment feels quaint.)

But I've recently gotten back into feed readers, and what I've realized is that I think a lot of my frustration was from news websites, which are just a constant stream of new content. Now I stick to a few blogs, HN top posts feed, and a couple other low-quantity feeds, and things are much better. I read the news directly off their websites once in the morning, and for the rest of the day I just rely on picking up major news via Twitter, etc.

Anyway, if you're looking for a nice, simple feed reader, I can recommend Liferea on Linux. I didn't have much luck finding a web-based client I liked, but recently I've started using a self-hosted instance of Miniflux, and I can also recommend that as well.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by Nition »

Lots of discussion on feed readers but basic support should be built in to browsers really.

Doesn't have to be a full "reader", it can just have a little RSS icon that shows a (1) etc for new items, which shows the links to the posts when clicked. Show up a little marker on the same icon when a site has a feed you can subscribe to. Manage your feeds in the settings somewhere.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by alrs »

k1m wrote: post #68
djhworld wrote: post #38

I've mentioned this on HN before, one pattern I've noticed is a lot of sites tend to truncate their RSS feed so you have to click through to see the full article etc. This is mostly OK but kinda frustrating, as in the before-covid times I used to ride the London Underground a lot where no celluar signal is available in the tunnels - so my offline RSS reader would be useless. So I wrote a little web service accepts an…

I've worked on something similar for some years: http://ftr.fivefilters.org An older version available on BitBucket: https://bitbucket.org/fivefilters/full-text-rss/src/master/

I'm a huge fan. Here's my Docker-ized take: https://github.com/alrs/full-text-rss-docker

EDIT: full-text-rss + newsboat + nyt screenshot: https://lsngl.us/@alrs/105652475456016345

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by cbradford »

royjacobs wrote: post #7

I'm happily using Feedly ever since Google Reader got shut down. I genuinely would be missing out on a lot of content if people would stop providing RSS feeds, especially for blogs that only update very sporadically.

+1 Big fan of feedly. I pray they never get bought by Google or someone that will shut them down.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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Re: I Still Use RSS

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

Is RSS really so obscure as the site suggests?

Every website I am interested in updates from provides a feed.

Apparently YouTube content creators receive more money if they have more subscribers, but I don't subscribe and simply use the RSS feed; it's easier.

Perhaps YouTube also factors in the number of RSS requæsts they receive.

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