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Starship – SN9 – High-Altitude Flight Test

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Re: Starship – SN9 – High-Altitude Flight Test

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That's a whole new meaning to halt & catch fire.

The lithobraking maneuver was sub-optimal.

Controlled descent into terrain.

SN9 knew the ground was where it was, but had an engine mishap preventing power to match control, so I’m debating with myself whether it was CFIT or UFIT. Maybe a superposition of both?

Re: Starship – SN9 – High-Altitude Flight Test

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post #69

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The engines were tested at sea level with the vacuum nozzle. Not being gimballed is bad, but they are throttleable, at least. All these crazy failure modes will have to be tested before Starship is human rated.

You are correct. There is even footage from a test on Youtube. Thanks for pointing this out.

You don't want them running for long on full power, but it's probably OK to use them for slowing down an emergency landing if the sea-level engines become otherwise unavailable. The alternative, as we (and SN10) saw with SN8 and SN9 is not great.

Re: Starship – SN9 – High-Altitude Flight Test

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post #71
post #27

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The lithobraking maneuver was sub-optimal.

Controlled descent into terrain. SN9 knew the ground was where it was, but had an engine mishap preventing power to match control, so I’m debating with myself whether it was CFIT or UFIT. Maybe a superposition of both?

I think it was absolutely sure it was in CFIT and then it realized, suddenly, it was actually in UFIT.

It was a little more boring than the engine-rich exhaust of SN8.

Re: Starship – SN9 – High-Altitude Flight Test

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post #46

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What would they replace it with?

I'd advocate for doing the flip on three engines for the added redundancy, then hovering for a second or so before landing; at least for passenger flights.

I think the idea is that two is redundant for the final design, but these test articles don't have the high power maneuvering thrusters. Without those they need to use the backup engine to manage the rotation.

Re: Starship – SN9 – High-Altitude Flight Test

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post #63
post #54

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The atmosphere on Mars is not as thick as ours so there might be an issue with that winged glider vision. And then there is the moon...

Both have much weaker gravity though.

But that doesn’t help when you have zero atmosphere. Zero times anything is still zero. And doesn’t help enough when the atmosphere is too thin.
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