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Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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"The secondary uptake wave after enthusiasts is not going to come from those who use legacy banking daily and are comfortable with it. It is going to be people who don’t want or are not allowed to use the legacy banking system for their everyday transactions."

This is also the point when governments will start aggressively working to shut it down.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The basket many people are holding all their eggs in, is the USD. That has depreciated significantly in the last few years, with a very good chance that it'll continue to do so. My home currency isn't the dollar but my app is priced in dollars and that sucks. I'd far prefer to have Euro earnings and earn a few bitcoins a month as a speculative investment.

Does investing in foreign stocks hedge against this?

Investing in any stocks hedges against this. For instance, I have shares in General Electric. That means I indirectly own part of all GE's assets. Some of their assets are in US dollars, but the vast majority of their assets are tangible things -- factories that make jet engines and diesel locomotives and dishwashers and... whatever the hell else we make. If the US dollar drops in value, the US dollar value of these real assets goes up correspondingly.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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I recommend reading up on the MMM company. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_%28Ponzi_scheme_company%29 there is also a Russian movie called PiraMMMida that came out a few months ago, which is the fictionized version of history. Now that movie, is pretty much exactly how bitcoin tends to be covered by the fanboys. And as the movie points out, it comes down to pure greed, people give up real money in order to buy worth…

BitCoin doesn't promise any returns, and doesn't distribute anything to new people who sign up. It is only a Ponzi scheme if the real world's economy is a Ponzi scheme. I don't know if it is.

Real world economy is a kind of a ponzi scheme, in my opinion. With the central bank being at the top, and other banks below it, followed by the financial sector, and all the people who become rich by "speculating" on money instead of actually producing something useful

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Please read this in context before you downvote. We're talking about bitcoin. If bitcoin is a kind of a Ponzi scheme, then it's no different from the "scheme" present in the current monetary system.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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Take away the interesting technical aspects, and BitCoin, to me, looks like a pyramid scheme. The BitCoin economy is like a small country with a novel monetary system. Now, a big country, say the USA, wants to join because it sees benefits in that system. Normally, such a transition would have the USA print new money. In this case, the answer to "OK, sounds useful, how do we introduce this kind of money into our econ…

> Take away the interesting technical aspects BitCoin consists only of technical aspects. The rest is just noise that people do around them.

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Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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This article is crazy, and actually fills me with a little bit of schadenfreude.

Asset bubbles run on the bigger fool principle, and they end when you run out of bigger fools to sell to. If folks have really started cleaning out their bank accounts and borrowing money to buy bitcoins (an amount of bitcoins which, incidentally, you probably could have picked up for twenty bucks just six months ago) then it seems to me that the world is about to run out of bigger fools.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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Let's be clear that this is Rick Falkvinge, founder of the first Pirate Party. His title is now "political evangelist". It's not surprising that he's in favour of a currency that is free from government control. (Not that I disagree with him in general, I just thought this is something to take into account reading this article)

Not to mention that he probably already owns a lot of bitcoins and has a massive vested interest in seeing them become worth more.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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It seems to me that a key move to stabilizing bitcoin would be finding a high demand product that can only be purchased with bitcoin. That along with offering retailers incentives (aside from the "no fees" aspect). A group of heavily invested bitcoin owners would be wise to organize such efforts.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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This violates two simple, and obvious, tenets of investing: 1. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. 2. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Actually Luigi, you're missing the best and most fundamental rule: 3. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns

Personally, my most fundamental rule is this:

4. Invest in stuff that has value.

Re: Why I’m Putting All My Savings Into Bitcoin

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This violates two simple, and obvious, tenets of investing: 1. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. 2. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

The basket many people are holding all their eggs in, is the USD. That has depreciated significantly in the last few years, with a very good chance that it'll continue to do so. My home currency isn't the dollar but my app is priced in dollars and that sucks. I'd far prefer to have Euro earnings and earn a few bitcoins a month as a speculative investment.

That depends on what you mean by "few". Here is a chart of the US Dollar index since 2002. http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M?1306686035 The major depreciation trend stopped in 2004 and since then has bounced around in a trading range.
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