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Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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I hope the actual documentation contains a comment section (so we can discuss the material where it makes sense, and not e.g. on stackoverflow instead).

Yes comments about the content should be solicited, and also questions like "then how can I do this...". In other words a FAQ section for each page would be great. Curated of course.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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I don't understand why Mozilla cannot see that MDN should be part of their core mission. I can understand spinning off Thunderbird and Sunbird, but this really seems a big step in the wrong direction. Today their Mission webpage[1] states : "Our mission is to ensure the Internet is a global public resource, open and accessible to all." According to the Wayback Machine, 8 years ago that page[2] said: "Our mission is t…

Because apparently MDN web docs can exist just fine without Mozilla being the primary funding source?

Web platform docs are surely important, but maintaining MDN is just a matter of funding at this point. If these new funding sources work just as well, what exactly is the problem?

Like it or not, Mozilla's continued existence hinges on Firefox's market share bringing in search engine deals. With their market share falling, the only things they can afford to spend their money on are 1) making their browser more competitive, and 2) building alternative revenue sources.

MDN docs maintenance is neither. It's certainly an asset to end users, but it's a cost center for Mozilla. It's good that other companies are stepping up to fund this. Somebody has to pay for our nice things.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Ok, so my bitcoin address is "bitcoin:1PQLtWnjUi1itHLG6QCQeHM3Nxua8pRsq1". What tag do I put in my HTML in order to receive payment from this system, without having to sign up anywhere?

You can just put that there - and then you hope that user agents implement this - or you can use interledger.

The documentation for Interledger appears to be for people who want to build software, not for people who want to send or receive money. And it talks about setting up accounts with xpring.io or rafiki.money.

I see no evidence that Interledger can be used for receiving money without having to set up accounts or run software. Plenty of evidence to the contrary.

As I said before, to receive bitcoin from one of these systems, there is nothing I should need to do other than advertise my bitcoin address. Anything more than that, and the system sucks.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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And a small Coil, who you've probably never heard of before, donated 40% of Google's/Microsoft's amount ($100k). That's pennies to Google/Microsoft. For Coil.com on the other hand... For the unaware, Coil is a subscription service that you pay a certain amount to, and that amount gets spread through websites you visit that have a WebMonetization tag in the element: Pretty cool initiative. My personal website earned a…

I've come across this before. In order to receive money, I should just be able to put: Or similar, on my website. Doesn't work that way though. I have to sign up with somebody like coil.com and put an address they give me on my websites. This is just worse. Much much worse than it needs to be.

bitcoin is not a currency, it's not a "money"

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've come across this before. In order to receive money, I should just be able to put: Or similar, on my website. Doesn't work that way though. I have to sign up with somebody like coil.com and put an address they give me on my websites. This is just worse. Much much worse than it needs to be.

bitcoin is not a currency, it's not a "money"

Thank you for your valuable contribution to the conversation.

Re: Introducing Open Web Docs

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just put that there - and then you hope that user agents implement this - or you can use interledger.

The documentation for Interledger appears to be for people who want to build software, not for people who want to send or receive money. And it talks about setting up accounts with xpring.io or rafiki.money. I see no evidence that Interledger can be used for receiving money without having to set up accounts or run software. Plenty of evidence to the contrary. As I said before, to receive bitcoin from one of these sys…

> the system sucks

Correct.

What you want requires support in the user agent (web browser) though.

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